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 Apologize for what?
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Posted on 05-16-05 2:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If you were political leader for last 15 years in Nepal (or anytime in this
duration), and saw the politics in wrong direction. Now you are supposed
to apologize for what went wrong partly or mainly because of you,
what would be the reason that you will ask Nepali public for an apology
or fogiveness. Select your answer one person at a time and confine your
reason in one lines and not more than two lines.

e.g.
Krishna Prasada Bhattarai: I apologize for relying all my decisions on the girl
and letting her be a proxy PM while I was on the chair and I should not have done that.
 
Posted on 05-16-05 3:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Not attempting a reply, but just to hello and ask whether Guru ji attended the Rally suttukaa yesterday, कि घरायसी/जागिरे वयस्ताताले पाल्न सकिएन ?

nepe
 
Posted on 05-16-05 3:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I certainly wanted to attend the DC rally. unfortunately,
I am new here in USA, don't have much knowledge and
resources to move outside the town that I am living currently.
My town does not have even a single public bus, nor a taxi
nor connects to railway system. I apologize for my inability
to attend the rally. I am certainly with Democracy and my
understanding with last 15years is that Bahudaliya System
has no substitute though it did not do that well beyond
or to the level of our expectations, that does not mean
we want Panchayat System. By criticising old leaders,
in this thread I am in no situation to promote royalists.
Royalists are the worst and they are the most corrupt,
insane human in this earth.

I am still NC sympathatic and will remain its loyal
supporter for democracy. But, I will be against its
leaders what they did in the past. So, Nepe sir be
assured that this thread is not supposed to help
Royalists, but to correct these idiot leaders who
led cKG to be aKG.

Tapaiko Afnai Suvachinka
GP
 
Posted on 05-16-05 4:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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डेढ दशक सम्म आफ्नो अक्षमता, दिशाविहिनता र भ्रष्टतालाई प्रदर्शन गरेका नेतामाथिको प्रहारलाई राजाको समर्थन वा प्रजातन्त्रको विरोध ठान्नु दैत्याकार अज्ञानता र मूर्खता बाहेक के होला ?

हो कतिपय मान्छेहरु अहिले राजालाई तह लगाउने कामलाई नम्बर एकको प्राथमिकता र अन्य कामलाई दोश्रा-तेश्रा चरण/ प्राथमिकता को काम ठान्दछन् । मेरो यसमा विशाल असहमति छ । मेरो विचारमा, माओवादी, राजा र भ्रष्ट राजनैतिक पिंढी- नेपाली प्रजातन्त्रका तीन महान शत्रुहरु- शक्ति र पुष्टिकरणको हिसाबले अनोन्याश्रित छन् , त्यसैले यीनलाई चरण चरण गरेर खतम पार्ने योजना अज्ञानताले भरिएको मात्रै हैन, नैतिक रुपले कमजोर र रणनैतिक र व्यावहारिक रुपमा विफलतामुखी छ । प्रजातन्त्रका यी तीन महान शत्रुहरुमध्ये कुनै दूईलाई काखी च्यापेर वा भविष्यको जिम्मामा सुम्पेर तेश्रोलाई प्रहार गरी खतम गर्ने योजना कुनै तिक्ष्ण वुद्धिको "वुद्धिजीवी" लाई त राम्रै लाग्ला तर त्यस्तो काममा ज्यान फाल्न अवुद्धिजीवी साधारण जनता अघि सर्ने छैनन् । र यो पछिल्लो वर्गको समर्थन/सहभगिता बिना नै प्रजातन्त्र ल्याउने सपना कसैले नदेखे हुन्छ ।

प्रजातन्त्रका तीन महान शत्रुहरु- माओवादी, राजा र भ्रष्ट राजनैतिक पिंढी- को त्रिलिङ्गीय समागम र गर्भाधानबाट जन्मिने प्रजातन्त्रको कुरो चाही बेग्लै हो । तर त्यस्तो प्रजातन्त्रले विगत डेढ दशकलाई ईतिहासको रंगमंचमा पुन: दोह-याउने काम मात्र गर्नेछ ।

अब प्रजातन्त्र जन्माउने काम यसको प्राकृतिक माता- जनता- लाई नै दिनुपर्छ । किनभने अन्यथा सब भ्रम हो । सब नक्कली हो । र यसैले मूर्खता हो ।
 
Posted on 05-17-05 1:39 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe, I totally agree with you; but do you really support any democratic party? Anyway, I like your posh Nepali.

To contribute to GP's thread:

GP (by the way, I mean Grija Prasad): I apologize for letting Shere to split party because I now think, it only helped the king.
 
Posted on 05-17-05 5:05 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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कुसुमजी,

धेरै लामो समयसम्म- ठ्याक्क भन्ने हो भने - असोजतन्त्रको आरम्भसम्म, सबै प्रमुख दलहरु जीवन, धुकधुकी, आदर्श र जिज्ञासा गुमाईसकेर सडिरहेका निर्जिव लाशहरुको दङदङी गन्हाउने थुप्रो जस्तो लाग्थ्यो मलाई । हजारौं हजार रातहरु मैले तिनीहरुको शोकमा बिताएँ । र अक्सर म कुनै एउटा नयाँ, जीवन, आदर्श र रचनात्मक जिज्ञासाको ताजा रगत बगिरहेको एउटा नयाँ क्रान्तिकारी लोकतान्त्रिक दलको fantasy मा हराउँथें ।

दलहरु आज पनि त्यति बदलिईसकेका छैनन्; खास गरेर ज्येष्ठ नेतृत्व त यथावत कुहिईरहेको छ ।

तर असोजतन्त्रपछि, कनिष्ट नेतृत्व, कार्यकर्ता र समर्थक वर्गमा विस्तारै केही चेतनाको संचार भईरहेको छ ।

मलाई के आशा (केवल आशा, भरोसा होईन) हुन थालेको छ भने, शायद कुनै नितान्त नयाँ दलको आवश्यकता छैन । शायद यो अतिविलम्बित नै सही तर जागृत हुँदै गएको चेतनालाई यथोचित हौसला दिईयो भने, दलहरुको यो भग्नावशेषबाटै गर्न सकिन्छ, समयको हाँकलाई आँक्न र आँट्न सक्ने दल वा दलहरुको निर्माण ।

तर पनि म कहिलेकाही के fantasise गर्छु भने सबै दलहरुका दूई चार दूई चार स्वच्छ र प्रगतिशिल नेताहरु र नागरिक समाजका प्रगतिशिल मान्छेहरु मिलेर एउटा नयाँ क्रान्तिकारी गणतान्त्रिक दलको निर्माण भएको ।

जे सुकै र जसरी सुकै होस् अनि जोसुकैले गरोस्, जुन शक्ति, गठबन्धन वा आविष्कारले अहिलेको सामन्तवाद-आतङ्कवाद-भ्रष्टाचारको त्रिकोणात्मक Quagmire लाई तोडेर परिवर्तनको ढोका खोल्न सक्छ- त्यो राजा, माओवादी वा कुनै भ्रष्ट दल नै किन नहोस् -समय त्यसैको हो । र म पनि त्यसैको हुँ ।

 
Posted on 05-17-05 8:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I personally don't think that Nepal needs another new party
to take leadership to bring the democracy online/ on right track.
We need a new educated leadership who knows what a leader
should be? rather than what a classical a manager is ? We need
a leader who had studied little or more on game theory. We don't
need these banarashi leaders who use classic style of mobocracy
that is based on "divide and rule". We need leader that can include
all people and knows the law of the land. We had leaders who
probabbly never read any law after 2046? We need leaerned
people in the political leadership. The requirement for political
appointment should be based on who can bring the difference
(positive) , not who got how many lathis in mobocracy.

Now, lets talk about NRN in USA. The NRN leaders (so called)
themselves suffer feudalism mentality within themselves, through
they try to portray that Nepal needs to dismantle feudalism,
but how come they don't see themselves in mirror. Such feudalism
can be seen in private communications with peoples like Mr. President
ANA to forum moderators on Nepali Freedom issues to NepaliPost.com
moderators. They all suffer feudalism syndrome. Therefore, they
don't fit for leadership in Nepal. They all are in oneway or otherway
useful idiots. IF KG invites them in certain political positions, they will
leave USA right at this moment, not even wait until tomorrow morning.

I am still not convinced that we have genuine leaders who are brilliant
from both perspectives like education, and able to handle the public,
especially mob, like Gandhi did in Kalkatta.

Well, that does not mean that we should wait until we get some
good fit people for our leadership, the leadership gradually will
build up by correcting the mistakes. The most important thing
for our leaders is "not to make the same mistake again". In last
15 years they committede the same mistake they did in 2015-2017.
KG repeated the history. Royalists say that Nepalis are not
ready for democracy, thats not true, its like learning how to prepare
daal bhat tarkari.... you make mistake no matter what the theoretical
training you got from your mom. This is what we have to point out
to those who defend Democracy is not working in Nepal.

GP
 


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