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Posted on 08-10-05 9:13 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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August 9, 2005

Nepal's Human Rights Record Threatens Military Aid
By SOMINI SENGUPTA

KATMANDU, Nepal, Aug. 5 - When a firebrand student leader went to visit his friends in jail here last week, he, too, found himself arrested by the police and locked up on a charge of sedition.

When a political prisoner was freed by a court order in the town of Nepalganj in June, plainclothes police officers immediately plucked him from the courthouse steps.

And after two Nepalese newspaper journalists wrote last month about the army's deploying children as informers against suspected Maoist guerrillas, they were summoned to the army barracks for questioning.

Such incidents are not only measures of life and law in a country squeezed between its all-powerful Hindu king and the nine-year-long Maoist insurgency he has failed to quell. They are also of creeping importance to American lawmakers.

Before a new round of American military aid can start flowing to this troubled Himalayan kingdom, Congress has said it must be convinced that Nepal's ruler, King Gyanendra, can guarantee basic human rights. The Bush administration can override that condition if it determines that there is a national security imperative for Nepal to get the aid.

An administration decision is expected in the coming weeks, and whichever way the president goes is likely to be read throughout this region as an important barometer of White House priorities.

Nepal has functioned as an absolute monarchy since October 2002, when King Gyanendra dismissed the elected government on the ground that it had proved ineffective and corrupt. Last Feb. 1, he ratcheted his control up another notch, imposing emergency rule, arresting hundreds of political party members and suspending press and civil liberties.

Emergency rule has since been lifted, but many restrictions remain. This week, for instance, the government demanded to know why news broadcasts had resumed on a private FM radio station, in contravention of the Feb. 1 order.

The measures have proved increasingly unpopular. In Katmandu, the capital, what began as mild protests against the Feb. 1 royal decree have become more violent and outspoken. In recent weeks stone-throwing student demonstrators who call openly for the overthrow of the monarchy have tussled regularly with police officers wearing blue fatigues and carrying riot shields.

Chants during the protests have turned strikingly audacious. "Gyanay Chor, Desh Chhod," goes one popular cry. Using a diminutive form of his name, it calls the king a thief and urges him to leave.

Despite the Feb. 1 order, journalists frequently defy the curbs against independent reporting on the conflict. Political cartoons take pot shots at the king.

"People hoped and believed he had a plan," Kanak Mani Dixit, one of the country's most respected journalists, said in an interview here. "I said he has made a major mistake, but he will be forgiven if he has a plan. But nothing has happened." The king's latest steps were controversial even beyond Nepal and have been accompanied by what his critics see as a steady deterioration of civil liberties as the king struggles to turn back a widening insurgency that has fed off this country's poverty and caste divisions.

The American law threatening the loss of military aid, passed by the United States Congress last year, was prompted by Nepal's unenviable human rights distinction: during the past two years, the largest number of new cases of disappeared persons reported to the United Nations came from here.

Some of the missing reappear after courts take up habeas corpus petitions; those who are suspected of being Maoists or their sympathizers can be locked away without charges for up to a year under Nepal's antiterror laws.

The conditions for restoring full American military aid range from whether law enforcement authorities obey court orders on prisoner releases, to whether steps are taken to end torture by security forces, to whether the government allows the National Human Rights Commission to function freely.

Neither the United States Embassy here in Katmandu nor officials at the State Department in Washington agreed to comment on the record about whether Nepal had sufficiently complied with those conditions. In the past, American officials have urged the king to reconcile his differences with the political parties and take steps to return to democracy.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Democrat from Vermont and the author of the amendments that set conditions on military assistance to Nepal, however, has said that Nepal has so far failed the test. "Unfortunately, not only have those conditions not been met, the situation was made significantly worse on Feb. 1," he told Congress on July 28.

"The king has made a tragic blunder," he added, "and the Nepalese people are paying a heavy price."

Since Feb. 1, the Bush administration has continued providing some military training and supplies, but held off on others. Now, $2.5 million in aid is at stake, the big-ticket item being a consignment of roughly 3,500 M-16 rifles.

Discussions are continuing, meanwhile, over the possibility of Nepal's sending troops to the United States-led coalition forces in Afghanistan.

Local and international human rights monitors have reported what the United Nations' top human rights envoy in Nepal, Ian Martin, called "serious and recent" allegations of torture.

Meanwhile, the rule of law plays out in a bizarre tableau.

One afternoon in June, in the office of the National Human Rights Commission in the midwestern town of Nepalganj, a 19-year-old man named Buddhiman Karki sat on a sofa in a Spiderman T-shirt. The judge had ordered him released that afternoon after an unspecified time in Army and police custody. He said he had been beaten in custody. There was never an attempt, apparently, to try him in a court of law.

No sooner had Mr. Karki stepped out of the courthouse than two plainclothes officers grabbed him from one side. Immediately, two Human Rights Commission workers, Mohan Dev Joshi and Yasuda Banjade, grabbed him from the other side. "Rule of law, you can't do this," is what Ms. Banjade recalls saying to the officers. "There was a little bit of shouting," she said.

Eventually, the judge stepped out of the courthouse, and the police let go. Mr. Karki, a Maoist who said he was corralled into the movement eight years ago, at age 11, said he would slip across the border and into India as soon as he could.

 
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Posted on 08-11-05 9:19 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If they can be INDEPENDENTLY verified, YES!
 
Posted on 08-11-05 9:22 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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poonte,

There is gonna be independent assessment. Lets see its results too. I will see your words. Else you are just a clown.
 
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I'm sure the same people who did the survey presented by Nepe are going to happily march forward into the Maoist infested places of nepal where these current atrocities took place to do an INDEPENDENT survey and come up with another colourful chart.

The govt has to allow these people because of international pressure but the maoists are not going to allow them full or even any access to their misdeeds. Hence their survey's are going to be lopsided at best.
 
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Prawin,
In today?s political situation in Nepal, where the head of state is the King, it may look like RNA is fighting to protect an ideal like you have mentioned, but the reality is, RNA is a fighting force of a state that is loyal to the government; and if the government was led by political parties, they would be royal to them as well. So it is not fair to blame RNA which is in fact merely doing what it is supposed to do, be loyal to the country and die for it. This is the case of civil war where the people of same country are fighting with each other in the name of the country.

NK, I do not live in Boston or the surrounding area. And really US would be one of the few countries in my list to ask for any help be it lobbying any agenda, because of it?s foreign affairs. Anyway, like you and many others I am also concerned about the state of our country and would encourage for the solidarity among Nepalese.

 
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Hurray,

I liked what you said. In wanna add something to it too. Do not forget the education level and system inside the RNA. The problem about human rights could be overcomed by training and prpoper education. RNA is being watched by human rights organ, UN, Nepalese, foreigners. Who is watching maoists? R they listen to them?

Their policy is crystal clear. Make a red state. If you follow history shing path was brutal, so was Lenin, so was Mao. So there is no check on human rights against them.

ANd all you democratic fools. Baburam has made it clear. He says democratic republic is minimum reguirement and not the eultimate requirement. Ya fools help Nepal turn into communits state.
 
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>Poonte and Nepe,
>R u gonna protest against the recent atrocities by maoists?

What kind of silly question is this ?

Atrocity and abuse do not have label. Not to me. I don't care whether it is Maoist atrocities or RNA atrocities. Atrocity is atrocity no matter who does it. Always comdemn it no matter who does it.


 
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Nepe,

Whats you gonna do? No dlegation to UN, Amnesty. Just labeling it as silly quesstion will not do. Show your zeal like you did in DC rally
 
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Nepe has been very vocal about atrocities of the RNA, but when it comes to Maoist atrocities he quietly agrees on technical terms that it's an atrocity as well.

Are you a Maoist supporter? Not accusing, just asking.
 
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From DC Rally. The guy on the left is Nepe


 
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From my understanding about Nepe's political beliefs and background, he is a communist and that may have made him a Maoists/Terrorists supporter. Again it's just my judgement, a mere hypothesis. And Poonte being Nepe's follower, admirer need I say more?
 
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"The guy on the left is Nepe."

You mean the 'FACELESS' guy?
 
Posted on 08-11-05 11:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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You freaking one-liner bull-shits. Click my nick to see my face.
 
Posted on 08-11-05 11:50 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Oo ho, kasto sanga rishako ho, meri bassai.
Man, no offence but you have a look of an Indian dacoit.
 
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You mean one-line bull-shitters? Yes, nepe dai that is the correct term. Ani, pasu no disrespect --- You're too funny. Let's not look at faces to judge people but the action. Action pani testai testai bho ra po maryo. heheehehhe
 
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Kya Rishauna pani Pataka chak ma padka jasto rishaudo raicha yar. Bauko gharma Deusi Khelna aaunilai bardalima basera hakarya jasto. Ajha guff ra suff ani aru kura chai democracy ko chaschan.

Ta bhate sab ya basera ke halla gari ra..testai garna sakne bhaidya bhe ta gai halthyo ni nepalma. ya ko kam, gadi, sukha , sajhama aayera arulai gali garni, anta santa bakni..Nepal gayera jhanda bokyo bhanyo chakma ghusaucha Danda bhanera jandaina.

Sab muji haruko tal dekhiyo.Tehi bhayera ma yiniharule lekya polictics solitcis ko guff paddaina
 
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Nemesis,
Looks matra kay, Kam pani dacoit ko jastai raicha. Nepe manchey chai 'Neperay' raicha.

Ani Asan Ko Sadhe, timro nepali read gardha ta, timi solokhumbu ko bhotey lay nepali boleyko jast cha ni.
 
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NEPE SHOWS EVERY BEHAVIOR OF A COMMUNIST SUPPORTER AS WELL AS THIS ANILJSHAHI AND I BET IT MEANS "ANIL JUNG SHAHEE", WE KNOW WHAT SHAHEEE. AREN'T YOU FROM MAHARAJGUNJ, AT LEAST USED TO BE. SUJITA SHAHI'S BROTHER.

ET GO HOME...
 
Posted on 08-11-05 2:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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International Herald Tribune (IHT) also had a similar but broader coverage.

- http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/09/news/nepal.php

Keep Rolling...
 
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shree5,

You don't know why ? You could find one in Boston Globe too.
 
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