Nepe ji ma eak rajnitik ma maan rakney tara rajnitik prati dherai gyaan nabhaye ko manche pare.Tapai mannus ya namannus ma tapai ko tarka bitarka bata nikai prabhahet hudai tapai ko gata dui barsha dekhi tapai ko herek post haru religiously fallow gardai aaye ko chu. Tapai ko post pardha kahely mero ragat oumliyera aaouthiyo ta kaheley nirasiyera basthiye. Kaheley ma kina yeha basiraheko baru nepal gayera kehe garnu paryo bhanne abhas aouthiyo.

Nepe ji tara hijo aaja mero maan ma kehe prasna haru kheelna thaleyka chan tesai ley mailey yeha tapai ko samuney kehe prashna haru rakna khoje ko chu. Huna sakcha yo mera prasna haru kaam nalagne pani huna sakcha karan rajnitik mero cup of tea nabhaye ko ley pani huna sakcha je hos yedi answer yogya thandinu bhaye please do answer me.

1. Nepe ji tapai ko harek post haru padiyo ani tapai ko tarka pani suniyo Nepe ji ko pacchi pacchi pani lagiyo aba kura rahayo ke bhane Nape ji ke ye sabai tapai ka post tarka bitarka haru CYBER WORLD arthat Sajha ma matrai kayem hune ho ki arko sabda ma bhanda yo tabai ko time kill garney bato ho?

2. Yedi hoina bhane tapai ley nepal ko recent situation lai solve garna afnu thaou bata kasto yogdan dirahanu bhaye ko cha?

3. Tapai NJ ko sabai subidha haru consume gardai khali Cyber World ma matrai Nepal ma yo pugena tyo bhayena bhanera critic garnu khojnu ta bhaye ko hina ?

4. Nape ji tapai Nepal ma gayera kina yo andolan lai safal parnu hunna?Ki tapai lai US $ ra subhida tyagna kathin pareko ho? Ki tapai lai Nepal Government ley band gare ko cha nepal jana bata? Bhanchan ni "Action speaks louder than words" jasto hune ho ki?

5. Hoina bhane ta Nepe ji tapai hamro AGUWA ani tapai leyi kunai BOLD kadam nachali khali Cyber ma matrai aayera rame shyame govinde kalu sanga tarka bitarka matra dinu bhayo bhane ta "Jo aguwa woi bato haguwa" jasto ta dekhinu hune hoina?

Once again Nepe ji ma tapai ko follower bhayeko nata ley malai mathi ka kura haru ka answer magne adhikar bhayeko ley matra sodeko hun. Huna ta mero rajnitik ma testo gyan nabhaye ko karan ley tapai lai ye prasna haru waihaat lagna pani sakcha tara mero maan ko santi ko lagi bhaye pani tapai ley mero prasna ko jawaf dinu hunecha bhane asha gareko chu.

ps: Nape ji huna ta ma pani Dr ta Dr nai hun tara ma chain pare manis ko Dr. yedi tapai lai mero answer ko lagi mero real ID ko abasekta parema bhanuhos ma mero real Id dine chu.

नेपेजीले नेपाल फर्केर मेयर बन्ने अभिलासा भएको जुन शालिन अभिब्यक्ति दिनू भो, म यसलाई १६रै आना सहि ठान्छु।

अमेरिका बस, युरोप बस जहाँसुकै बस आफ्नो गाउँठाउँमा फर्केर सेवा गर्ने अभिलासा लिने कुरामा कसैलाई अपाच्य हुनुपर्ने र
पेट मिच्नु पर्ने जरो मैले देख्दिन।
अब यो MP को सल्लाहकार हुने भन्ने अर्को मनसाय छ नि , यसमा नेपेजी कतै चुनाबसित डराएको त हैन, जस्तो आभाष हुन्छ।

घोडा चढ्ने लड्छ।

चुनाबसित डराएको MP को सल्लाहकार नेपे भन्दा चुनाबी मैदानमा उत्रेर ३ भोट ल्याएर हारेको नेपेमा मेरो सम्मान सहनेछ।
अब मन्त्रीको सल्लाहकार हुने भे आलोचनात्मक समर्थन गरौँला। तर नेपेले हेर्न सक्ने क्षेत्रको मन्त्रालय पनि त हुनु प-यो नि।
पञ्चायत निति तथा जाँचबुझ समिति जस्तै *गणतन्त्र निति तथा जाँचबुझ समिति* हुने भे नेपे त्यहीँ ठीक। अब खेलकुद मन्त्रीको सल्लाहाकारमा नेपेलाई राखेर काम छैन। बरु जगत गौचनै बेस।मिल्ने मन्त्रालय खोजुम्।

प्र म को सल्लाहकार हुनलाई नेपेको पररास्ट्र निति र त्यस सम्बन्धी बिचार सुन्न पाइएकै छैन।त्यसैळे नेपेजीले पनि अध्ययन गर्नुपर्ने थुप्रै छ, हुन त जसको पनि हुन्छ।
अनि अलिकति यथार्थसित नजिकिएर सोच्नुपर्छ तर्क दिँदाखेरि।

जे होस् good luck!

मेरो २ कौडीको बिचार!

agree with Dada Giri.

Nut

दादा,

'मेयर', 'सल्लाहकार' को कुरा मेरो गम्भिर योजना भन्दा बेसी सामान्य रहरको रुपमा व्यक्त गरेको हुँ । मैले जे गरे पनि आफुलाई त्यसको निम्ति योग्य र प्रशिक्षित (broadly defined) नबनाईकन चाहि आँट्दिन भनेर मेरा सबै शुभचिन्तकहरुलाई विश्वास दिलाउन चाहन्छु ।

गणतन्त्रको लागि अनवरत लड्ने स्वतन्त्र कार्यकर्ता हुनु भन्दा बेसी मेरा कुनै गम्भिर योजना, कार्यक्रम र तयारी छैन अहिलेलाई । शायद मेरो राजनैतिक योगदान यसै कुरामा टुङ्गिनेछ ।

'है और भी गम दुनियाँ मे मुहब्बत के सिबा' भने झै, राजनीति वाहेक अरु पनि महत्वपूर्ण, अर्थपूर्ण र सन्तुष्टीदायक कुरा छन् जीवनमा, र म तिनबाट वञ्चित हुन चाहन्नँ । फेरि राजनीति (गणतन्त्रको लडाई) मा मेरो लगाव राजनैतिक भन्दा गैरराजनैतिक कारणले छ ।

मेरो केहि व्यक्तिगत दर्शनहरुको कारण मलाई यस्तो काम गर्नुबाट बाट अधिक सन्तुष्टी आउँछ जुन काम अरुले आँट्न नसकिरहेको होस् । Adventurist भनम् न । सयौं प्रतिस्पर्धीहरु भएको ठाउँमा लुसुक्क आएर उभिने काम (चुनाव) ले मलाई सन्तुष्टी देला जस्तो लाग्दैन ।

फेरि मेरो दिवानापन शक्तिसंग भन्दा पनि शक्तिसंग लड्ने शक्तिसंग हो । त्यसैले हो राजनेता हुनुसंग मेरो अनाकर्षण । म सदैव विद्रोह गर्नु पर्ने ठाउँ खोजेर विद्रोही नै रहि रहनेछु होला ।

गणतन्त्र आएपछि 'सल्लाहकार' हुने मेरो रहर, जुन संभवत: मेरो केटाकेटौले रहर हो, चाँहि सुधारका व्यापक छलफलमा सहभागी (प्रशिक्षक भन्दा पनि बेसी प्रशिक्षार्थीको रुपमा) हुने मेरो रहरसंग सम्बन्धित छ ।

म हाम्रो अर्धप्रजातन्त्रिक कालमै सुधारसम्बन्धी भएको एउटा व्यापक प्रजातान्त्रिक छलफलबाट निकै प्रभावित छु । त्यो हो नारी अधिकार सम्बन्धी कानूनको सुधारको निम्ति भएको लामो (बर्सौं लागेको) र अत्यन्त उत्साहजनक नागरिक र संसदिय छलफल र त्यसको विपरित दुर्भाग्यवश संसदमा भएको त्यस विधेयकको कारुणिक अन्त्य ।

जे भए पनि यी कुराहरु मेरा गम्भिर योजनाहरु नभएर केहि केटाकेटौले रहर मात्र हुन र संभवत: मेरो सक्रिय जीवनको एउटा सानो अंश मात्र ।

नेपे

I wonder how many Sajhaites in Kathmandu joined this pro-democracy rally.

Citizens? Speak Out: In colors, Sounds, and Faces
- http://insn.org/?p=1751

Thousands participated in citizens? dharna for democracy and peace at Basantapur Dabli today.

Today?s Basantapur event was simply stunning. The colours were amazing, the diversity was breathtaking, and the order of sound was simply astounding. Asmina and her team?s white mouth-bands, Sarita Mishra?s solo tabla, Ramesh/Rayan/Ram Krishna?s songs, Dhirendra Premharshi, Biplob Pratik, Durgalal Shrestha, Purna Baidhya, Rajani Mila, Suresh Kiran?s poems, Manoj Gajurel?s satire?these were simply unprecedented mixture topped up with sharp and succinct speeches by Dhan Kumari Sunar, Bairagi Kainla, Keshav Man Shaky and Shambhu Thapa. All of them touched the heart of thousands who were present there.

Khagendra Sangroula was simply the best in his sharp humour, witty remarks and presentation.

The five cartoons hung around the Basantapur Dabli. One cartoon by Ramesh Bisht showed ?loktantra? kicking ?rajtantra? by the abyss. Batsayana?s cartoon showed poor man carrying Rolce Royace into the Royal Palace with a gun-toting armymen following him.

?Ek Yuga Ma Ek Din Ek Choti Aauncha? (One Day in an Age comes only once) by Ram Krishna Duwal made everybody clap in thunder. Bairagi Kainla likened present rule with a ?drama in which the king has played ?autocrat'?. ?Gaun Gaun Bata Utha? (Rise Up from Villages) by Ram Krishna Duwal, Ramesh and Rayan made everybody stand up and dance.

Dhana Kumari Sunar said, ?this nation belongs to us, but not the state?. It is for us all to fight for change so that every dalit, janajati, woman and people from remote areas also can say with pride that this land belongs to all, she added. Keshav Man Shakya, a janajati activist, demanded that a new constitution be drafted through constituent assembly and that this ensure representation of Nepal?s diverse peoples in every institution it creates.

Shambhu Thapa, president of Nepal Bar Association, asked the security forces and other government officials not to obey the ?orders of this unconstitutional rule?. There is no point in talking to the king, he said, adding that the political parties have to demand unconditional end of king?s rule. ?A new constitution that we will make will ensure supremacy of the people?, he argued.

Picture Source:
- http://www.blog.com.np/?p=802

For your reading comfort, one more time with corrected punctuations . .

Citizens' Speak Out: In colors, Sounds, and Faces
- http://insn.org/?p=1751

Thousands participated in citizens' dharna for democracy and peace at Basantapur Dabli today.

Today's Basantapur event was simply stunning. The colours were amazing, the diversity was breathtaking, and the order of sound was simply astounding. Asmina and her team's white mouth-bands, Sarita Mishra's solo tabla, Ramesh/Rayan/Ram Krishna's songs, Dhirendra Premharshi, Biplob Pratik, Durgalal Shrestha, Purna Baidhya, Rajani Mila, Suresh Kiran's poems, Manoj Gajurel's satire?these were simply unprecedented mixture topped up with sharp and succinct speeches by Dhan Kumari Sunar, Bairagi Kainla, Keshav Man Shaky and Shambhu Thapa. All of them touched the heart of thousands who were present there.

Khagendra Sangroula was simply the best in his sharp humour, witty remarks and presentation.

The five cartoons hung around the Basantapur Dabli. One cartoon by Ramesh Bisht showed 'loktantra' kicking 'rajtantra' by the abyss. Batsayana's cartoon showed poor man carrying Rolce Royace into the Royal Palace with a gun-toting armymen following him.

"Ek Yuga Ma Ek Din Ek Choti Aauncha" (One Day in an Age comes only once) by Ram Krishna Duwal made everybody clap in thunder. Bairagi Kainla likened present rule with a 'drama in which the king has played "autocrat'. "Gaun Gaun Bata Utha" (Rise Up from Villages) by Ram Krishna Duwal, Ramesh and Rayan made everybody stand up and dance.

Dhana Kumari Sunar said, "this nation belongs to us, but not the state". It is for us all to fight for change so that every dalit, janajati, woman and people from remote areas also can say with pride that this land belongs to all, she added. Keshav Man Shakya, a janajati activist, demanded that a new constitution be drafted through constituent assembly and that this ensure representation of Nepal's diverse peoples in every institution it creates.

Shambhu Thapa, president of Nepal Bar Association, asked the security forces and other government officials not to obey the "orders of this unconstitutional rule". There is no point in talking to the king, he said, adding that the political parties have to demand unconditional end of king's rule. "A new constitution that we will make will ensure supremacy of the people", he argued.
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Pictures taken from:
- http://www.blog.com.np/?p=802

दादा लेखनुहुन्छ:
>प्र म को सल्लाहकार हुनलाई नेपेको पररास्ट्र निति र
>त्यस सम्बन्धी बिचार सुन्न पाइएकै छैन। त्यसैळे
>नेपेजीले पनि अध्ययन गर्नुपर्ने थुप्रै छ,

नि:सन्देह । यद्यपि मेरो रहर "परराष्ट्र मामला" मा सल्लाह दिने "सल्लाहकार" हुने चाँहि होईन (अनिल शाहीजीको विशेषज्ञता छँदै छ नि त्यसको निम्ति :-) ), कथंकदाचित कम्तिमा नेपाल-भारत सम्बन्धको मामलामा नेपेले सल्लाह दिने ठाउँ आयो भने कस्तो सल्लाह देला भन्ने जिज्ञासा हुने पाठकहरुको लागि प्रस्तुत छ, तीन वर्ष पुरानो मेरो साझा कुराकानीका केहि अंशहरु, Myth of Geopolitical reality, Indophobia and Competent Diplomacy को बारेमा:

(Additional Note: नेपे माथि विद्यावारिधि गर्न कम्मर कसेर आएका नयाँ एकल पंक्तिकार शोधार्थीहरुलाई पनि यो पुरानो thread पुरै पढ्न आमन्त्रण गर्दछु । यहाँहरुको लागि एक आकर्षण: एकजना साथीले नेपेलाई माओवादी प्यारो छ कि क्या हो भनेर छेड हान्नु भएको छ, एक पर्संगमा )

10-Jan-2002
- http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=2914&dsn=sajhaarchive


[the idea that we are at the mercy of India and that we should not take on a powerful country ] is not a double standard. It is a lack of standards. It is [a] self-defeat, [a] demoralization and suicide. It is a clinical depression of a nation. It is an illness large section of our society, notably some intellectuals and all political leaders, (exclude Maoists) are ailing with. Note that Khum Bahadur Khadka (?) recently said the same words in public, "every government of Nepal has to be at the mercy of the cooperation of India" (accurate wording ?). Was he telling the reality ? Yes. Was he telling the eternal truth ? No. He was [actually]telling about the state of his mind and the mind of the state he runs.

Indophobia is an illness of mind. It has two forms 1. hating India in everything, 2. fearing India in everything. In any form, it is harmful. It inhibits Nepal's progress.

Intellectual Indophobia [cf. Emotional Indophobia] is armed with a deceptively undefined fear factor called "geopolitic reality". The later ignores dynamism of relationship, undermines the power of diplomacy and grows on the semi-myth of "soil". Therefore it is essentially an illness of mind. We need [a] therapy.

Let me show you how it is a psychological illness. When people state that Nepal is at the mercy of India, they just state the statement as a generalized fear. They do not/ can not think of a specific case (existing or imagined) where Nepal would/ could have acted differently, were she not at the mercy [of India]. They do not go case by case. They just think, what's the point, in any case we are surrounded by large India, it MUST MEAN it has superiority or advantage in some thing, somewhere, some time. See ? a generalized fear.

Is/should there be a therapy for this illness ? Yes.

I hope more people will come to this thread and contribute their ideas for/against such matter of vital importance to our country's future. I leave [at] saying that India does not give us [a] free lunch. We pay this [way] or that way. India would not give us more just because our posture is of a demoralized nation. On the contrary, we shall get more if we stand as a nation with awareness, resolve and no intention to hurt anyone.

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. . .I totally agree that we have to deal with India diplomatically rather than with hysteria and emotion. Actually, that's my whole point ... No hysteria. Not only when hating India but also when fearing India, or loving India for that matter. Critical thinking, good diplomacy, wise play of cards (both available and that can be gotten), but no hysteria.

We should keep in mind the geography or whatever dimension of our relationship just to get the best deal. But whatever we do we should do without panicking, without making ourselves obsessed with geopolitics.

Geopolitics should be knowledge, not an obsession. We can not afford putting a billboard of geopolitics on the highway of our progress.

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[During the 1988 Blockade] I think we should have gained something by playing those cards [ US and China's vocal support to Nepal] with India. After all the blockade was lifted afterwards. Whatever is, my assertion is that the question should be how wisely we played the cards to maximize the deal we get. Obsession of geopolitics could have made us a poor player.

[Unless it is absolutely necessary, our having truculent political posture with India is counter productive ]. Exactly, no truculent political posture unless it is absolutely necessary. But also no fallen flat posture unless it is absolutely necessary, for example, to play tricks (lets use our imagination here). Just a pleasant and amicable posture all the time.

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If some day the whole world becomes a single boarderless nation and I live till then to see it [happening], I will be the [happiest] person in the world even if I have to give up my Nepalitwa. But that is a far away dream. While there is a trend of disintegration of forcefully and artificially integrated nations in the world, there is also an encouraging unification of common interests, economy and currency (Euro in the case). I was harboring this dream of South Asia Economic Union. Thanks to the SAARC summit in Kathmandu, something is happening. If I am not robbed of freedom and democracy, I don't mind South Asian Federation either.
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What should be Nepal's role in India-Pakistan or India-China conflict ?

Honest broker of peace. Because honesty is the best policy. I think honesty and neutrality should give us more edge in future. If we know anything about Indian and Pak mind by now, it won't be a bad idea to collect something useful for future too, but without harming our credibility. It seems a tough challenge. I am not sure how good we have sharpened our diplomatic skill. I heard somewhere that Bhutan's diplomacy was much superior than Nepal's as shown in the case of refugees. And it is no secret that 'source-force' but not qualification is the qualification of Nepal's diplomats. So I am not so sure about our performance, if that ever required.

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दादा, छाँटले मेरो सल्लाह 'कच्चा वैद्यको मात्रा, यमपुरीको जात्रा' त हुने होईन ?

नेपे

Nepe,

I enjoyed reading your above posting.

Here, your thoughts are similar to mine -- and having travelled and worked quite a bit across South Asia in the last one year, I say that we have to find ways to ride the Indian (and the Chinese) boom.

You write:

"I heard somewhere that Bhutan's diplomacy was much superior than Nepal's as shown in the case of refugees. "

Bhutan's diplomats are sharp, speak excellent English, and appear to have been educated at St. Whatever schools of Darjeeling . . . followed by college/university in the US/UK, and returned home to join diplomatic service. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan have schools to train future diplomats.

Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there, with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal.

oohi
ashu

Well said ASHU......

((((( Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there, with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal.)))))

No.1 example is NEPE.....

Gorkhali-X

>छाँटले मेरो सल्लाह 'कच्चा वैद्यको मात्रा, यमपुरीको जात्रा' त हुने होईन ?
मोटा मोटी नक्शा तयार भो, गहिराइसम्म बुझ्न त धेरै सुन्नु पर्ने छ।
>I heard somewhere that Bhutan's diplomacy was much superior than Nepal's as shown in the case of refugees. And it is no secret that 'source-force' but not qualification is the qualification of Nepal's diplomats.
अब भुटानी शरणार्थी समस्या देखि लिएर इराक काण्ड, अनि माओबादी समस्यामा पनि नेपाली कुटनितिज्ञहरु कमजोर भन्ने कुरा त प्रस्ट हुन्छ, बिडम्बना।

यहाँनिर आशुजीले भन्या कुरा पनि मनासिब लाग्यो।
>. . . followed by college/university in the US/UK, and returned home to join diplomatic serviceIndia, Bangladesh and Pakistan have schools to train future diplomats. .

Coincidently, Ashu & Nepe bear the similar views in this regard, does it mean this thread doesn't continues longer?

Ashu,

It's a matter of pleasure to find you and myself sharing a similar view. As a matter of fact, I think, barring from the matter of domestic politics, we probably share similar, if not identical, views on great many things.

Even in case of domestic politics, there is an interesting, if not bizarre, similarity between the approach you often have emphasized for dealing with the King and the one I am taking here for dealing with India.

I would probably be saying the same thing you are saying about how to deal with the King, had it not been for a small difference I see between India and the King.

With India, we have issues that can not be fought most efficiently with what can be called 'moral strength' of the issues alone. On the contrary, our issues with the King is of the nature that can be (and I would say, must be) fought with it's 'moral strength' alone. I think this is what our difference basically is and all that you and I are fighting are mere details of that.

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You wrote:
>I say that we have to find ways to ride the Indian (and the Chinese) boom.

Absolutely. Although I have not read in words, I feel many of us might be banking on the automatic SPILL OVER effect of the Indian/Chinese economic boom.

However, (you are in a better position to caution these people on this) with their relative stability as compared to us, Myanmar, Bangladesh and other SAARC countries might take our share (of opportunity) if we fail to become a stable country soon.

Still, stability alone won't be enough. Our people will have to acquire more sense of entrepreneurship and sharpen their cross-border trading skills. When I was "on the same page" with you during our debate on the curriculum of Nepali language a while ago, I was actually thinking about this very issue. We better spend our valuable time to train our students to make them internationally more competent rather than encouraging them to write better Nepali poems.

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On Nepal's diplomacy, I feel like crying when I see our ambassadors.

Sometime ago, our ambassador in DC, Mr. Kedar Bhakta Shrestha, wrote a rebuttal to an article published in a local Newspaper. The letter was so poor that the editor had to reject it for publication ! The poor embassy was forced to circulate the letter by emails and Nepali websites.
Even the darling boy of both Panchayat and Prajatantra, Dr. Bhekh Bahadur Thapa, disappoints. Wasn't he saying once that he has not studied the constitution of Bhutan and that is because he thinks that particular knowledge is not important in dealing with the case of Bhutani refugees in Nepal ? This is how our best diplomats are.

>Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there,
>with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal.

I believe our population pool is big enough to allow us to afford losing a fraction of it's brain to "drain". And I would rather celebrate than pitying whatever small small things, including sentimental attachments, these drained brains could do for Nepal.

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दादा,

आशु र मेरो कुरा मिलेपछि त झन तन्केला जस्तो पो छ त थ्रेड, के को निथ्रन्थ्यो ?

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आशु र मेरो सिङौरी खेलाखेल पर्दा लागेको घाउमा बसेर अलिकति रगत खाने झिङ्गेदाउ बोकेर पछि पछि लागेका झिङ्गे पोस्टरहरु (sd_man, Nemesis प्रभृति) यो पाली भने निराश भए होलान् ।

कुरो मिलेछ, हर्ष लाग्यो

अब झन यस्तै यस्तै धेरै राम्रा राम्रा कुरा गर्न पर्यो। बरु चाहिने भए अर्को "ASHU JI" भन्ने मेलो पनि खोलि दिउँला ;)

Keep rolling...

Tsk nepe. I am the nemesis. The goddess of retribution. Please read some Greek mythology. That will enlighten you. I mean read, not just google. If you knew what my namesake standks for then you would not have accused me as a jhinge poster who drinks blood. I bestow vengence, rath, to those who are puffed up with hot air and go unchecked.

"Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there,
with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal."

A trend set by Siddartha Gautam.

Right said Hurray

Nepe started showing his psycho behaviour again???? He was quite for sometime, I thought he was good with the medications before. No no no, he is not ok yet. He needs more of those tabs for total rehab.

He probably is trying to say that he wants to copy HUBAHU commie politics from dead commie countries and gingle some jargons like - "geopolitical situation", "decont. monarchy" "Lok tantra" "Janatantra" etc etc and finally to FREAKING ...BAAAD. He is conspitated to shiiiit these "ORIGINAL IDEAS" in public sites like sajha. What is more rediculous is Nepe now wants to copy his HUBAHU commie thing in Nepal's foreign policy - gimme a break!!!! Nepe and diplomacy.....

This was a new twist in your dance Nepe - ding taka ding ding. Nachyo Nepe Nachyo.

See you on next posting dear bleeding Nepe!!!!

Nepe wrote:

"It's a matter of pleasure to find you and myself sharing a similar view."



Sure.

Since -- as I have said on Sajha before -- I like to decide issues on a case-by-case basis, rest assured that with me, strong and heated and even brutal disagreements with you or anyone else in one area will NOT spill over into ALL other areas.

That's why, it's entirely possible to agree with you or anyone else on some issues, and still disagree or have divergent opinions on other matters.

That said, I have little sympathy for the kind of attitude I often see in our various Nepali communities which goes like this: "If you are my friend, then you and I must agree on everything. If you and I are enemies, then we must oppose one another on everything regardless of what the merit of the issues are." I am sure that in the last 10 years, the Nepali politics has shown us all the paralysing effects of such an attitude.

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As a Nepali, one of the heart-breaking things I find these days is to travel to places across South Asia and South East Asia, and see how other countries have put or are putting their house in order to grow economically and to assert themselves in the region . . . only to see Nepal reverse its whatever meager gains to slide backward all the more.

At the rate Nepal is going anywhere, it'll probably take anywhere from 10 to 25 years (if not longer) to sort out its mess -- and that means two to three generations of able Nepalis in Nepal will have to do nothing but fire-fighting and cleaning up the mess in Nepal.

oohi
ashu

True Ashu,

it sure warrants a lot of time and effort to fire-fight, clean this up and ressurect the democratic norms.

समकालीन नेपालको प्रतिविम्ब

Nepe,
I thought, you were a cyber junkie. But you make Sense most of the times. I guess, I was a bit harsh on previous postings. I should not have gone that far. You and I share the common platform ? Sajha to share our thought about nepali politics. There are so many Nepalese but there are really a few who are concerned about the political affair of our country.

Keep it up. Who knows, some day , we might meet in person !!!!

Good luck Nepe !!!!

sd_man,

Take it easy, brother. Nobody is perfect. And life is not always fair. It brings you all kinds of things. You take your share and move on. Ghalib knew it.

गम-ए-हस्ती का 'असद' किस से हो जुज मर्ग ईलाज
शम्आ हर रंग में जलती है सहर होने तक

(कहाँ मुक्ति छ दु:खबाट साथी मृत्युले छुँदा सम्म
अनेक रंगमा जलिरहन्छ बत्ती मिर्मिरे हुँदा सम्म)

A candle has to burn in every shade and color until dawn.

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Ashu,

You are right that we suffer severely from lack of democratic culture of dissent. However, I think it is more a problem related to etiquette than a problem of faulty reasoning actually.

I do not think Nepalis are intellectually challanged so much as to believe that our enemies are always wrong and our friends are always right. I can tell from my experience of Nepali life that we are as intelligent as any people in the world and we do know it when our enemies are right or when our friends are wrong. We just are unable to articulate that. That's all.

And the things that disable us to articulate such things are our feudalistic values of 'dignity' and 'honor'.

After 1990, we indeed were supposed to learn to replace the feudalistic values of "dignity" and "honor" with the democratic culture of "respectful dissent", "graceful acceptance" and likes. But we did not. Apparently something is not right. You and I have probably different views on what is not right.

In any case, I am very optimistic and believe that things are happening in a right direction, although not in a desirable pace yet.

Basically our weakness is that we are weak. We can not think of fighting the strong and powerful. By saying so, I may have sounded bizarre to some, because what we have been seeing in Nepal is nothing but fight, fight and fight. How can a fighter be weak ?

Well, if we look at all political fights carefully, a pattern will emerge where we will see our fighters actually targeting a weaker and vulnerable party while dispensing the stronger and robust one. I know I am making a very general and very sweeping assertion. However, I believe that I am not very much wrong.

Now, to all this, we are seeing a sign of change. People are emboldened and they are targeting the most powerful and the robust one too. Now I am hopeful that perhaps now we can show our courage to fight our own "friends" and patch up with the "enemies" if and when necessary, not based on the calculation of physical strength, but based on the bold and cold calculation of moral strengths.

Better and brighter days are ahead. I have never been more optimistic than I am now.

Nepe