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 Hurricane Katrina is made US like Somalia

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Posted on 09-02-05 7:29 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It is amazing the way people are acting in the parts where Hurricane Katrina has hit... looting... gangraping.... deaths.... firing on rescue workers.... and much more.... here was a strange picture which I really think to see and read the writings on it and think what kind of world is that part being.......

 
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Posted on 09-04-05 3:00 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yeah instead of donating for americans, y don't u donate for nepalese who are suffering. $10 will make a difference in Nepal while u're donating 100's or even 1000's of dollar in US. U don't donate the people victimized by floods and landside or even by army and terrorist in Nepal but u wanna donate the americans. U should be ashamed of being a nepali.
 
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manepali well you are right, but ke garni we dont have such a strong media...anyways back to katrina.:P


I really cant believe that in this day and age that they have such broken lines of communications between city/state/US government officials as they had in this past week. Some of it can be forgiven because of communication outages in NO, but the LA(BR) <---> DC communication line breakdowns should be unforgivable...with both ends to be blamed.

Hats off to NM Gov for offering NG help, and to everyone who offered help before the hurricane hit. As for the rest of the NG heads....well I guess you can chalk it up to bureaucracy. When i see a massive accident that just happened in the middle of the street, I jump in and offer assistance. I don't wait for the victims to ask for my help....they may not be able to ask for it.

I guess the blame game is starting to be engaged by both sides now:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html

 
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Galt; I've sent you an email. So sorry to hear about your troubles.
 
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Another viewpoint:

The Two Americas
By Marjorie Cohn
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Saturday 03 September 2005

Last September, a Category 5 hurricane battered
the small island of Cuba with 160-mile-per-hour winds.
More than 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated to higher
ground ahead of the storm. Although the hurricane
destroyed 20,000 houses, no one died.

What is Cuban President Fidel Castro's secret?
According to Dr. Nelson Valdes, a sociology professor
at the University of New Mexico, and specialist in
Latin America, "the whole civil defense is embedded in
the community to begin with. People know ahead of time
where they are to go."

"Cuba's leaders go on TV and take charge," said
Valdes. Contrast this with George W. Bush's reaction
to Hurricane Katrina. The day after Katrina hit the
Gulf Coast, Bush was playing golf. He waited three
days to make a TV appearance and five days before
visiting the disaster site. In a scathing editorial on Thursday, the New York Times said, "nothing about the president's demeanor yesterday - which seemed casual to the point of carelessness - suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis."

"Merely sticking people in a stadium is
unthinkable" in Cuba, Valdes said. "Shelters all have
medical personnel, from the neighborhood. They have
family doctors in Cuba, who evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know, for example, who needs insulin."

They also evacuate animals and veterinarians, TV
sets and refrigerators, "so that people aren't
reluctant to leave because people might steal their
stuff," Valdes observed.

After Hurricane Ivan, the United Nations
International Secretariat for Disaster Reduction cited
Cuba as a model for hurricane preparation. ISDR
director Salvano Briceno said, "The Cuban way could
easily be applied to other countries with similar
economic conditions and even in countries with greater resources that do not manage to protect their population as well as Cuba does."

Our federal and local governments had more than
ample warning that hurricanes, which are growing in
intensity thanks to global warming, could destroy New
Orleans. Yet, instead of heeding those warnings, Bush
set about to prevent states from controlling global
warming, weaken FEMA, and cut the Army Corps of
Engineers' budget for levee construction in New
Orleans by $71.2 million, a 44 percent reduction.

Bush sent nearly half our National Guard troops
and high-water Humvees to fight in an unnecessary war
in Iraq. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief
for Jefferson Paris in New Orleans, noted a year ago,
"It appears that the money has been moved in the
president's budget to handle homeland security and the
war in Iraq."

An Editor and Publisher article Wednesday said the
Army Corps of Engineers "never tried to hide the fact
that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as
well as homeland security - coming at the same time as
federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain,"
which caused a slowdown of work on flood control and
sinking levees.

"This storm was much greater than protection we
were authorized to provide," said Alfred C. Naomi, a
senior project manager in the New Orleans district of
the corps.

Unlike in Cuba, where homeland security means
keeping the country secure from deadly natural
disasters as well as foreign invasions, Bush has
failed to keep our people safe. "On a fundamental
level," Paul Krugman wrote in yesterday's New York
Times, "our current leaders just aren't serious about
some of the essential functions of government. They
like waging war, but they don't like providing
security, rescuing those in need or spending on
prevention measures. And they never, ever ask for
shared sacrifice."

During the 2004 election campaign, vice
presidential candidate John Edwards spoke of "the two Americas." It seems unfathomable how people can shoot at rescue workers. Yet, after the beating of Rodney King aired on televisions across the country, poor, desperate, hungry people in Watts took over their neighborhoods, burning and looting. Their anger, which had seethed below the surface for so long, erupted. That's what's happening now in New Orleans. And we, mostly white, people of privilege, rarely catch a glimpse of this other America.

"I think a lot of it has to do with race and
class," said Rev. Calvin O. Butts III, pastor of the
Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. "The people
affected were largely poor people. Poor, black
people."

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin reached a breaking
point Thursday night. "You mean to tell me that a
place where you probably have thousands of people that
have died and thousands more that are dying every day,
that we can't figure out a way to authorize the
resources we need? Come on, man!"

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff had
boasted earlier in the day that FEMA and other federal
agencies have done a "magnificent job" under the
circumstances.

But, said, Nagin, "They're feeding the people a
line of bull, and they are spinning and people are
dying. Get off your asses and let's do something!"

When asked about the looting, the mayor said that
except for a few "knuckleheads," it is the result of
desperate people trying to find food and water to
survive.

Nagin blamed the outbreak of violence and crime on
drug addicts who have been cut off from their drug
supplies, wandering the city, "looking to take the
edge off their jones."

When Hurricane Ivan hit Cuba, no curfew was
imposed; yet, no looting or violence took place.
Everyone was in the same boat.

Fidel Castro, who has compared his government's preparations for Hurricane Ivan to the island's long-standing preparations for an invasion by the United States, said, "We've been preparing for this for 45 years."

On Thursday, Cuba's National Assembly sent a
message of solidarity to the victims of Hurricane
Katrina. It says the Cuban people have followed
closely the news of the hurricane damage in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and the news has caused pain and sadness. The message notes that the hardest hit are African-Americans, Latino workers, and the poor, who still wait to be rescued and taken to secure places, and who have suffered the most fatalities and homelessness. The message concludes by saying that the entire world must feel this tragedy as its own.

Marjorie Cohn, a contributing editor to t r u t h
o u t, is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of
Law, executive vice president of the National Lawyers
Guild, and the US representative to the executive
committee of the American Association of Jurists.

 
Posted on 09-05-05 4:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Given the current trajectory, I don't see the Bush coattails to be anything but microscopic in 06. With now having to nominate 2 people for the Supreme Court, there's going to be a LOT of clamoring from the right for someone who's a dyed in the wool conservative. So Bush will either need to pick someone like that and expend a lot of political capital pushing the person through in a firefight, or pick a plain vanilla person and expend that capital in placating the right. Either way, at this point I think the ambitious Bush platform of 2004 is now officially dead.

So what would Bush bring to a congressional campaign? He can't show up to someone's rally and crow about his Social Security reform. Barring a major shift in Iraq, he can't really crow about that. And if Democrats can reframe the terrorism debate around the idea that so much time and money has been spent on "homeland security", yet they just got their butt kicked by a natural disaster, he'll be touring the country with an empty gun. The only thing he'll have is the aura of being the president. But in places where his popularity is at 40% or lower, he might hurt a candidate more than he helps. There's a reason why Bush's only stop to Washington State in 5 years has been for a quick private fund raising event. Having him at your side here is about as effective as having Michael Jackson there.
 
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And this woman senator's heroics:

''The president's suggestion over the weekend that local officials made mistakes has led one Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu, to threaten to punch him if he says it again. ''

- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4214504.stm
 
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Americans in general are rightly criticized for a lack of empathy, particularly for war. The same could be said of Canadians perhaps- thoser two countries really haven't experienced war the way China has, or Germany, or Italy or the UK or Iraq and Afghanistan. They have no conception of the power of the weapons they produce. They go to airshows and see these magnificent fighter jets, they marvel at the nuclear powered aircraft carriers, line up in droves to watch films that dramatize war but don't show the full reality of it.

Well the rest of the world, meanwhile, has lived through enough war. Thousands of years of it in fact. They know first hand what it's like to be in a bombed out area, hoping for some food and water, having to tend the dead, and being homeless.

America hasn't experienced that -flat out- they have not experienced anything like that since the Civil War. Pearl Harbor and 9/11 lasted one day people. There has been no seige of an American city like the Siege of Leningrad or Stalingrad, no firebombing of Chicago by German fighters like in Dresden, no defoliation of their forrests like they did in Vietnam, no Rape of Seattle like the Japanese did to the Chinese in Nanjing..nothing like that. People there lack empathy for war ravaged lands, not all, but most, simply because they lack the oral histories and traditions and memorials and utter sadness of countries that have experienced this.

The media has gotten some guts in covering the white house in response to the Rove stonewalls, and they have a wealth of documents pre- and during katrina to skewer the administration on misstatements and spin. Investigations on katrina will get nasty for the administration mainly because they will not be able to hide behind the cloud of classified documents withheld because of "national security concerns."

I don't know if Katrina will change this, but one can always hope.
 
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Damn. This sajha.com is responding to me as slow as Bush Admin is to Katrina victims.

And Matrixrose, are we talking about a Hurricane or world wars in here?

''Investigations on katrina will get nasty for the administration mainly because they will not be able to hide behind the cloud of classified documents withheld because of "national security concerns." ''

Maile ta kei bujhina :P

DO you mean Bush will order the Attorney General to prepare a range of documents so that future governments will hide behind them incase Hurricane Fatrina occrs next time? :)


 
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Well sir, if you are good in analyzing you will find the answers in that post and how these two things can be combined and for what and why and how. Just try to go deeper and read again....

1+1=3 Now dont ask me why....:d
 
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LOL. Go deeper re. Is there a life guard? Me very scared to drown.

1+1=3? Help ! Help! Help! Anybody there?
 
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LOL. Go deeper re. Is there a life guard? Me very scared to drown.
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chichichi, nasty minded people. :D
 
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aaja bihana biralo le bato kateko thiyo. K hola bhaneko ta madam ko dialogue sunnu raichha. Thank you very much for taking away today's fear. I wish I could have said I love you :)

 
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Ram Ram Ram....no i love you please, yo barsa ko dose pugisakyo... By the way was my pleasure to know that i took your fear away, cause most of the time its the opposite. :D
 
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''By the way was my pleasure to know that i took your fear away, cause most of the time its the opposite''

Is it? Had I known this before, I could have offered my pleasure to you as well.
Anyway getting a tough grilling everywhere. Seems I am still having a bad day. Wish if
someone continues helping. :)
 
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it wouldn't surprise me.. if bush says... katrina was part of terrorist act..
 
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I don't go and stick on your idea, cuz you guys have collected full of junk news for only criticizing, I did watch TV and found that truth is G.Bush went there after second day,,,,,,, I like the Mahisasur idea: We don't do politic something like senate-hall or debate among the candidates. Fed-Budget matter is totally out of task, we can talk but we need to use our sense a bit before denouncing our budget speech focusing to disaster. Fed. Gov. has no huge budget for upcoming disaster. Thugged out, the MSG you posted would be the MASALA for New presidential election. We deal with Natural disasters,,,,,,, and you are totally expressing your analyzing towards president's weakness. We have no time to read that full of shit political Bhasan........
And Nepali,,,,,,, we do donate as needed to Nepal. First I had hard time to donate to Nepali victims for past disaster. Later on I found and gave donation through Nepali Embassy which was double of my donation to American Red Cross at present.
 
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Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard 's interview with Tim Russert on NBC's Meet the Press might have answered some of the questions, however his emotional cry to the apparent lack of sudden response to a massive natural disaster summarizes the policies of the Bush Administration. Their continuing lack of irresponsible foreign and domestic policies pulvarizes the catastrophic policy blunder. There was a failure in responding to such a devastation and there needs to be a thorough investigation much larger than the 9/11 commission.

Congessional delegation needs to be setup to ensure a detailed investigation. However, I do agree with former President Clinton, this is not the time. The time will come but for now, heal the unhealed, help the needy and share the suffering...

God bless the families of the victims of Katrina.

 
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I myself am inclined to agree, that using this as a platform just to bash Bush is silly but the fact is fact. If someone else was in his place people would have said the same thing.

Well, a failure to lead is still a failure. The three biggest disaster threats facing the US according to FEMA are Cali quake, New Orleans hurricane, and New York terror, IIRC. I'll give him a marginal pass on NYC terror because he was only in office for less than a year, and I have no idea if he has led the gov't to improve a quake in CA, but the facts are that he took money (thus not only physical infrastructure but much needed expertise) away from FEMA and did nothing to prepare for a disaster in New Orleans.

People keep decrying, but how would he know? Or, it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they elected him to be a leader, and he failed to lead.

Furthermore, by sending significant National Guard units away from the south and to Iraq, he deprived the citizens of the gulf coast the best trained back-up plan to deal with a disaster.

Finally, since, as it turns out, it's common knowledge that this could have happened, the lack of marshalling of federal resources to evacuate the city as the hurricane approached is criminal. No one has a bigger motor pool than the Feds, and yet they did nothing. Many people (though not all) left behind could not evacuate on their own, and now they have to work 100 times harder to save them. As the hurricane bore down on the Gulf Coast, the President was rallying before a homer crowd in San Diego.

Failure to lead, cutting funds, doing nothing with the info coming in from FEMA, and then doing not enough in the moments up to the catastrophe all flow uphill, and there's only one man at the top.

And so the games begins....

I'm just going to go on record that Bush seems to have a horrible ability when it comes to thinkingout the results of his actions.

"That memo about Osama didn't seem important."

"You're either with us, or agianst us."

"Who needs an exit strategy in Iraq!"

"Bring them on!"

"Why would they continue funding hurricane evac planning for an area identified as highly likely to be hit by a hurricane?"

I'll leave now.


 
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US President George W Bush has said he takes responsibility for government failures in dealing with the effects of Hurricane Katrina
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UHUH! wow he too realised it now huh? Wow what a great man. duhhh! After this guys track record, I'll have to say I'll believe it when I see it.
 



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