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Posted on 09-05-05 5:52 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Heard it thru the grapevine......King G has decided to cancel the UN trip due to certain political scenario unfolding in Nepal. Considering that the dissenting political parties are on the verge of collaborating with the Maoists.

"The Fierce One" declaring unilateral "cease-fire" for three months has provided the right impetus in the minds of many in the 7-party to form an alliance with the Maoists in its quest to dethrone King G.

Also heard: Prachanda was received at Indian PM's office in New Delhi before he made the "cease-fire" statement.

I guess all of Nepe's placards and black flags has to go into storage! :)
 
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Posted on 09-06-05 7:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Finally King G has learnt to bow, at least once. From here the way is down the hill, I beileve. I'm really not satisfied yet, but at least one score up for republicans! But beware the King might play foul!
 
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Although this is a welcome SIGN, it has yet to take the form of a CONCRETE FACT -- they have cancelled the RNAC charter, but he can always fly first class to NY. It could very well be a ploy to dampen the anti-King movement in the US that has picked up significant pace in the recent weeks.

"नखाम भने दिन भरिको शिकार, खाम भने कान्छा बौ को अनुहार" भो' होला राजालाई, कठै! Damed if he does, damned if he doesn't. Whatever the case, I hope those involved in anti-King movement in the US will hardly call it a rest. For one thing, we should be more energized by the recent developments in Nepal, and for another, our scheduled protest was NOT against the individual King to begin with anyway. So, whoever represents the Nepali delegation to the UN also represents the current repressive regime there. Therefore, we will have every reason to be present at the rally in front of the UN on the 16th!
 
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yes Poonte, the money received from sujata/girija/mridula needs to be justified, regardless, isn't it??? otherwise, they will come and stick a 6 inch from your behind, I mean they will perfom (AN@L S3X) kya or they might send AN@LKSH@HI from N.Y hai... but you did came with quite a creative idea to show flags to chor ramesh pandey. Now I know, why they pay you (poonte) to be on sajha all day, hoina ta khakaji, kaso???


 
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Sep. 6 2005

His Excellency Kofi Annan
Secretary General
The United Nations

Yoru Excellency:

Please accept our greetings and highest feelings of appreciation for the keen interest and genuine concern you have taken on Nepal's political affairs. We feel duty-bound as representatives of the seven major political parties of Nepal to report you on the current state of political affairs of our country and to explain why the current council of ministers formed under the chairmanship of King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah has no legitimate authority to represent the sovereign people of our country.

As you are aware, King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah, on February 1, 2005, unconstitutionally appointed himself as the chairman of the council of ministers, usurped all the executive powers of the state, proclaimed state of emergency in the entire country, arrested a large number of political leaders and workers and human rights activists, suspended major fundamental rights of citizens, imposed travel restrictions on political and civil society leaders and curtailed press freedom. The February 1 royal take over in essence represents the ultimate step in the process of consolidating political power by King Gyanendra that he initiated by arbitrarily dismissing the constitutionally elected government on October 4, 2002. The world community has rightly concluded that the royal take over has been a massive setback to democracy and constitutionalism in Nepal.

The Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal 1990 enshrined the aspirations of the Glorious People's Movement of 1990 that brought the authoritarian Panchayat regime led by absolute monarchy to an end. The constitution ushered in the multiparty democracy based on the principle that sovereignty is vested in the people. In line with modern democratic constitutions of the world, Nepali constitution also explicitly provides for separation of power among three branches of government, establishes various constitutional mechanisms to guarantee civil, political and human rights of its citizens including free press, recognizes the parliament as a supreme body to express the will of the sovereign people, and recognizes political parties as integral and inalienable parts of the political process. The royal take over is in complete breach of all these principles. Following the undemocratic and unconstitutional royal take over. King Gyanendra has appointed his puppet cabinet, destroyed democratic institutions and rule of law, and issued executive orders and ordinances infringing fundamental civil, political and human rights. The King has constituted a supra and unconstitutional body called Royal Commission for Control of Corruption, in parallel to an already existing constitutional body, with the motive of political vendetta against political leaders opposed (to) the royal take over. Likewise, the King has created various illegitimate authorities e. g., regional and zonal administrators with unlimited power vested on them to primarily repress and intimidate the democratic opposition to his absolute regime. The King has nominated his loyalists to otherwise elected positions of district development committees to consolidate

his position. The King's handpicked council of ministers, as it comprises of notorious criminals, perpetrators of human rights violations and willful loan defaulters, is a matter of disgrace and dishonor to the nation. The country is now ruled by the absolute law of force.

King Gyanendra in a desperate attempt to justify his authoritarian rule, has been trying to mislead the world community by portraying the political choice in Nepal as being one between peace and terrorism. he has been insistently and adamantly pursuing a military solution to the problem of Maoist insurgency that our country has been witnessing for almost a decade now. The King, through a series of actions, following the royal takeover, made the chances for the peaceful solution of the violent conflict even more remote.

The international community has made clarion calls to the insurgents to respect the norms of the international humanitarian law, renounce the path of violence and enter the process of dialogue to establish lasting peace in the country. Nepali people have also clearly recognized and many times amply affirmed their faith on a democratic and political solution to this violent conflict. Respecting and recognizing Nepali people's longing for peace and international community's considered opinion, we have been trying our best to explore with all political actors, including the insurgents, the political parameters within which a peaceful solution to the present crisis is possible. We will be failing in our duty, as the leaders of responsible political parties, if we shy away from it. We have, as representatives of seven major political parties, come together and made public our common platform in which we propose the reinstatement of the Third House of Representatives, formation of a government of all party consensus, free, fair and peaceful elections to the constituent assembly following peace negotiations with the insurgent Maoists, and inclusive restructuring of the state as a way out of the current crisis.

We fully appreciate and count on your esteemed leadership of the United Nations to pursue and uphold the ideals of peace, democracy, constitutionalism, rule of law, respect for human dignity, unfettered enjoyment of civil, political and human rights and inclusive pluralistic society for all the people to realize their full potential to make our world a more kinder and gentler place. At this critical juncture in the history of Nepal, we need greater support and understanding of international community to stop our country from sliding towards a failed state. Not just political but also all economic indicators point to our heading in that direction. The positive gains that the country made towards achieving the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) during democracy are being reversed after the royal takeover. We ardently hope that the international community understands the moral imperative to reprimand and censure the unabated regression represented by the authoritarian and absolute monarchical rule in Nepal. Hence, we, the undersigned representatives of the seven major political parties that together constituted ninety-five percent of the members of the last parliament of Nepal, would like to convey our strong feeling that the present royal regime and its political representatives have no competence, authority and legitimacy to represent and speak on behalf of the sovereign people of Nepal.

Thank you,

Yours sincerely,
(Signed by)

Girija Prasad Koirala, President, Nepali Congress
Madhav K. Nepal, General Secretary, Communist Party of Nepal (UML)
Gopal Man Shrestha, Acting President, Nepali Congress (Democratic)
Amik Sherchan, Chairman, People's Front, Nepal
Narayan Man Bijukchhe, Chairman, Nepal Workers and Peasants Party
Bharat Bimal Yadav, Vice President, Nepal Sadbhavana Party (Anandi Devi)
C. P. Mainali, Chairman, United Left Front, Nepal

 
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"SHRAWANMA MAREKO GORULE JAILE PANI HARIYAI DEKHCHHA BHANCHHAN";
Some handful of people are celebrating that the King cancelled his visit due to fear of protest in NY!!! Is this the fact? Try to understand the grave situation of Nepal perpetrated by the Maoist (in collaboration from govt of India) and supported by agitating political parties. It is not wise to celebrate when a foreign country intervene in internal affairs of Nepal. There is no joy when the "ceasefire" is imposed upon by India to play their game plan. I think the King took wise decision not to leave the country when the situation back home is so fluid.
 
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I agree with you PSC.

Friends like these, who needs an enemy?

Friends=poonte, testidirector etc.
Enemeis=we all know who they are, don't we?
 
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I was quite surprised to see no one interested in talking about India?s blessing to Maoists and suggestion to announce ceasefire but went on to indirectly celebrate the consequence of it, the cancellation of KG?s US trip. We Nepalese fail to see larger picture every time.
Eeta nepali haru raja kamjor bhako manaudai janchan, utta Indian haru ley nepali to akha ma chalo halera nepali ledi jancha.
As India and China compete with US to be superpowers, nepal?s chances of existence slowly diminishes. It will be much easier and in the best of India or China to invade Nepal. So far India seems to be doing that, by getting involved in nepal?s political conflicts or who knows by creating one. Nepal?s political instability gives India reasons to send its troops in Nepal. And again, Nepalese fail to see this and fight among ourselves. It won?t be too long before we Nepalese have to carry Indian passport.

 
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The protect to stop King or any one from Nepal is being carried out in instruction of India through RAW. They are giving money to journalists, so called human right organisation (in reality sister organisation of parties), selected student leaders and various other activists. They are doing this in Bangladesh also to stop PM of bangladesh to stop from attaining the UN conference. The main intension behind this is to stop these two countries from voting in the forthcoming security council permanent member. India is also candidate for security council and Nepal and Bangladesh have voting right. India knows they will not get support from these two countries therefore wants to stop representation from these two countries. If you all have noticed, this issue is raised only from last two weeks and till that date they were bargaining with the government which did not worked and now using our easily available leaders, journalist and others people who are so cheap that for them money and political benefit is more than country.
 
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I did mention Pachanda meeting up with Indian political and governmental functionaries before announcing his unilateral "cease-fire". Indian has political parties nicely tucked in her back pocket and Maoist in their front.

Although I realize and accept that we ourselves are to blame, a whole lot, for much of the trouble brewing in our beloved nation today, India's role in engaging in activities to destabilize Nepal is undeniable. Nepal needs to learn to steer clear of India's inveigling schemes and grasping machinations.

India does want to step up to "industrialized nation" status and get its economy going at full-throttle but at the same time it also wants to assert itself as an emerging world power, i.e., wants a permanent seat in the UN security. It is already a nuclear power. It wants a bigger say on what goes on in the region.

China and Pakistan are its arch enemies in the immediate sorroundings. China is the next super-power to be after the good ole US of A and Pakistan with Mussarraf at the helm has all US backing. So, India has in the past, is now, and will in the future, engage in covert operations in the region( Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal and some what Sri Lanka) to impose its hegemonist will on the governments in the above mentioned nations.

Other than Bhutan, Nepal is the country that is most dependent on India for its survival due to our geographical reality. Nepal provides a "buffer zone" between India and China to some degree and Nepal has precious " water resources" potential that India can utilize a great deal in its quest to moderize to provide for irrigation and electricity in the states that neighbor Nepal.

All the IOUs that India has collected from the political parties for ushering in multi-party democracy in 1990 will want to cash it all in. It's payback time! Furthermore, the RAW apparatus has being making a systematic penetration into all aspects of Nepali civil society. The job has been further made easier with all the unrest and turmoil.

As we, Nepalis, fight amongst ourselves, India comfortably sits on the sidelines enjoying the melee. This is exactly what India has envisioned and I wouldn't be surprised if India steps in, and takes over control on the pretext of "security concerns".

 
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The bastard chickened out - coward!
 
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नेपालको भोट कोले किनिसक्यो (जापान?, जर्मन?)।
India किचकिच गर्दैछ। ईईईईईईईईई खा!
राजा लाटो हुँदो हो त Indiaलाई भोट दिने सर्तमा फँस्दो हो NY जाँदो हो।
अब नेपलीका काला झण्डासित डराऽर राजा NY गेऽन रे।

म एउटा जोक भन्छु है।

२टा कमिला खेल्दै थिए। उताबाट हात्ती आयो।
पहिलो कमिला: "हेर्न भुस्तिघ्रे आयो। डरले बिस्तारै आउँदैछ। म एक लात दिम्?"
दोश्रो कमिला: "आज छोड्डिम्, बिचरा एक्लै छ।" रे क्या।
 
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PSC-jee,

The explanation that YOU have given to the possible cancellation of King's visit to the UN is very compelling. However, the fact is that even the government itself has NOT recognized those facts as having contributed to the cancellation decision. Furthermore, even you have come up with the theory in the aftermath of the reports of the cancellation. It probably would have carried more credence if you or anyone else had suggested it prior to the "news". Therefore, the idea of KG cancelling his visit to the UN SOLELY due to the worsening (for him!) situation at home are nothing more than EXCUSES to me.

I, for one, still believe that the decision in question came about more due to the pressure from the international community than anything else. It had been reported that President Bush denied a meeting with him, and so did other prominent world leaders. In this regard, you and others must realize that the planned protest rally has not merely been about sloganeering and mass gathering -- many people, both inside and outside of the rally organizing committee, had been 9and still are!) engaged in aggressive campaigning using the rally as a platform. Some groups even sent letters to the US State Department asking them to deny visas to the King's entourage. Similar letters of exposing what we consider is the truth were sent to ALL of the 170-or-so UN delegates, US lawmakers and NYC officials. Now, whether or not those campaigning efforts were eefective is a matter of guess for everyone; but I am sure those efforts, coupled with Maoists' strategic move to announce a cease fire, must have contributed, albeit however little, to the consequent cancellation of KG's US trip.

I still see a tiny ray of possibility, though, that this is all government's attempt to dampen the Nepali anti-repression movement in the US, and that in the end, he will fly first class (although the RNAC charter has been cancelled) to NY.

Now comes the question of India's role in Nepali politics, given that the reports of India's involvement in Maoists' decision are true. Remember, the very first and foremost rule of thumb in international relations is that the states act according to their own respective self interests. India cannot be an exemption. The fact that India is emerging as a major world power gives them all the more reasons to pursue their self interest aggressively, both in South Asia and in the rest of the world. This is not to say that EVERY selfish action that India may take would be justified, but if we wish to counter those actions, then we must find creative ways to MAKE them do certain things our way, rather than just EXPECT them to be nice to us.

How?

Well, for that, we as a Nepali nation need to be strong. Mind you, this kind of REAL strength does not come from uniting behind an individual in the name of senseless nationalism. The strength that I am talking about here is the REAL empowerment of the PEOPLE, the real sense of independence and sovereignty that lies with EACH and EVERY Nepali, not just on the Royal palace. By detaching ourselves from the blind loyalty to the crown, therefore, we can be a strong nation that can perhaps take on even India in the future.

Finally, have you not made the claim that what Nepali people desire most at this time is peace? So, whether the current peace comes at India's direction or not, why are you complaining? At least there is hope for a much-needed respite from violence for ordinary Nepalis now. Think: It is also a matter of shame for KG that India enjoys the leverage of achieving in Nepal what he promised and has not been able to deliver to his people.

अनि त्यो माथिको उखान चईं आफैंलाई पनि लगाएर हेरम्, है! हामी एकोहोरो हौंला, तर तपाईंले पनि त्यो एकोहोरोपनबाट मुक्त छु भनेर दाबी गर्न चईं अलि मिल्दैन क्यार। भन्ने नै हो भने, त्यो उखानलाई अझ अलिकति बदल्न मन लाग्यो:

पञ्चायती indoctrination मा परेको गोरुले जहिले पनि राजाकै खेत मात्रै जोत्ने!


 
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Mr. SHahi,

Your opinion worth prasing. But the problem is: Will the King just give up his thrown? He will stay regardless of any pressure. He will go back into constitution (if really starts feeling presure), then international community will have nothing to say. The maos will keep on killling innocent, the same old cat and mouse game.

Do not you think, all three groups should negotiate to bring peaceful solution and work for the transparent and independent framework which will exclude corrupt and inept.
The people should have the say.

Again the same question. Who is gonna put a bell on a cat? The current leadership is useless. First we gotta segreagate these inept and corrupt polticians from the movement.

Else Kam garne Kalu, makai khane Bhalu. The people will lose their life to bring back the same old cat and mouse game.

Peace
 
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Anil jee-

Thanks for your explanation on behalf of Anti monarq. In fact those questions and UKHAN was directed to him. Chor ko khutta kat bhane jasto bhayeko bhaye I am sorry hai!!!

I have some comments on your views that you have prsented above:

- Do you think King cancelled this trip just because he is scared of facing black flags while he is facing such protest rallies every day at Nepal? You guys probably don't even see him from 47th St. as no one are allowed to protest infront of UN building during GA time due to security reason.

- Do you think a head of the state of a country will give surprise by cancelling one flight and covertly taking another flight to visit NY? Give me a break!!! Tapai le pani yesto joke garnu hudo rahechha!!!

- If the US is willing to provide visas to HOS/HOG from North Korea, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine etc (those countries with whom the US is having very bitter relation due to their vital national inetrest) what made you believe that they have denied visa to Nepal King? What the Nepal situation have effect on vital national interest of US? Part of the member of entourage is still coming including FM Rameshnath Pande. I think you have failed to judge the degree and complexity of the problem back home for which absence of HOS for such a long period will have adverse implications. I personally appreciate the King's decision.

- President Bush might not have time to meet with the King. I think more than 170 HOS/HOG are expected this year. If Bush try to meet all of them for about 30 minutes each, he needs 5100 minutes (85 hours; about 4 days and nights) for those meetings. Do you think Bush can spare so much of time for that purpose? If Bush could not give time then there is no surprise. Nepal does not fall under Bush's priority.

- Tapai haru ko campaigning efforts le kam ta hoina propaganda chahi pakkai gareko chha hola, jun propaganda lai sojha sajha nepali le biswas garne nai bhaye. Tara yo kura bujhnus ki Bujhnele yo kasto propaganda ho bhanne kura bujhekai chha. Nabujhnelai yo kura gairo abasya chha!!! (I suggest you to send those money that you guys collected to Katrina victims or maoibadi Pidit back in Nepal; Mridula ko PANI chahi usaiko restuarant ma biki halchha)

-If India act to safeguard her interest, why should Nepal compromise on own interest to safeguard India's interests? Do you want Girija, Makune or Prachanda to act like Chief Minister or you want them as HOG??? Obviously India wants Nepal to become in extreme case Sikkim or if not at least Bhutan. In the name of regional power, do you allow them to enjoy such privilege? My point is that they are too much interfaring in our internal affairs and there are risks that we might lose our soveringty if we give them too much leverage. It will be easy for them if we are dis-united to achieve their purpose. We have seen how bad was our state of national unity in last 13 years - Party Party bich fut; party bitrai fut; rashtriya sampati ko lut; bhrastachari ra taskar lai chut; maobadi samasya; ethic problem; limbuwan, khamuwan; madheshi samasya etc). That does not mean we need dicatorship for longer period; at least we should be able to tolerate for three years if it is heading towards right direction to national unity and soveringty.

- malai pani yeuta ukhan yad ayo - "kukur ko puchhar barha barsa dhungro ma hale pani bango ko bangai".

Bottomline - It is better to be independent under dictatorship rather than becoming protectorate of foreign country.
 
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I was wondering was there a announcement earlier that Gyane gonna go to NY. Somebody was saying such announcement was never made..... but all these news about campaigning to protest and welcoming Gynae were up in teh air for many many days recently....

And again, has a firm announcement has been made by Gyane's chamcha Govt. about this cancellation? It has not come out, right??
 
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The Nepal's Govt. has not officially said that the cancellation is FINAL. Nor was there any news that Gyane was preparing to go to NY.

All we have so far heard is that unkown offical of the Govt. said so, and published by some nepali weekly in Nepal.

Tetro Raj Pariwar lai marera Raja hune Gyane.. bichar gara hai sathi haru... kamta ko conspiracy gardainan hola usle.....
 
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Anil ji,

ma pani kehi comment lekhu?

1. King's UN visit was never formally announced, so there no cancealation of the visit. It was rumored that King will be representing Nepal in the UN, but was never ever officially announced.

2. Regarding the letter campaing- Maybe it contributed to some extent, like you said. Since I don't know the details, or have seen the letter that was sent to the UN delegates, I better not say anything unless I read the letter myself and learn the details.

3. You and I share the same view regarding India's role in Nepal's politics. There are no saints in international relation and it would be foolish to expect India to be goody-good to us all the time. Every country wants to maximize its own interest by employing covert and overt means. And like you said, India is no exception. Our problem is not India and its "designs" on Nepal. Our problem is OURSLEVES. We haven't been able to devise strategies, policies to counter Indian designs on Nepal, and that really amazes me. Our bureaucray has failed time and again because we have no INDIA POLICY the way India has its NEPAL policy. Furthermore, our political parties have their own foreign policy agendas, i.e., each party has its own India policy. We lack the consistency in our policy towards India which makes it easier for India (and even Bhutan) to take advantage of us.

Of course teh first thing to do to counter India is to put our house in order and come up with quid-pro-quo policy, but it seems impossible. Like you said, I too believe that we need to learn the basic fact that India will not always be good to Nepal. India cannot afford to be good towards Nepal all the time. Its as simple as that. However, over politicization and Sanskritization of the ministry of foreign affairs, we have already either forgotten this fact or are pretty close to foreggting it. That's the state of Nepali foreign policy.

Another thing that I always stress is, India is not to be blamed for its adventures(?) in Nepal. If there is someone to blame then its our leaders who go to Delhi Durbar for advise and order everytime there's a political problem in Nepal. This provides India with easy intelligence, and for some money, loyal slaves in Singha Durbar. Nationalism and national dignity are the keys to ending India's influence in Nepali politics, but unfortunatley, our leaders and Nation seems to lack those these days. Of course nationalism is very subjective. Maybe you have your own defintion of nationalism, I have mine and others will have their own. So let me state my definition of nationalim beforehand so there's no confusion for you or others who might be reading this.

Nationalism- Putting your national interest (s) first. And the national interest being national security interests ( these days scholars put everything- ecological, economic, terretorial integrity etc.- under the Security Interest heading). People should love their country, and think in terms of difference when dealing with the others (meaning we should be focusing on the differences between Nepal and India, not on similarities when it is desired and required in our political-diplomatic dealings with India). Don't get me wrong, I am not promoting or asking for Hyper nationalism that looks down on others. I am asking for nationalism that makes one proud of one's country.

This is my definition of Nationalism. And I believe (i could be totally wrong) this kind of nationalism has to be forced on the people in countries like Nepal with various ethnic groups and extreme social/economic and recently political polarization. The state has to promote nationalism like in Attaturk's Turkey and deGaulle's France. For this you need a strong state which is only possible when you have a strong leader. People themselves don't think, don't act. You need someone to lead them. To put it crudely, you need someone to impose his/her idea on the masses. This is why I, despite being ridiculed as a simpleton repeatedly by your democratic comrades in arms, have always supported Mahendra's nationalism and his foreign policy of putting a safe distance from India, i.e., never appearing too friendly and never appearing too hostile. This seems the only way to conduct our dealings with India. You appear too friendly you get screwed, you appear too hostile, you get economic embargo!- what the hell are we supposed to do with India if not keep a safe political distance from it? I think only Gyanendra can do that and counter India like Mahendra did, provided he be given some time and some good advisors who think, read and talk sense unlike Bharat Keshari Singh and the herd he has gathered now.


 
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Interesting discussion. Let me join in:
1.Do you want Girija, Makune or Prachanda to act like Chief Minister or you want them as HOG???
--That's exactly the problem. If Gyanu's dictatorial ambitions aren't checked, we will have Indians running our country pretty soon.
2. "we might lose our soveringty".
--Already lost. The businessman in Narayanhiti has grabbed it. He will sell it to the highest bidder if sufficient pressure isn't kept on him.
3. "That does not mean we need dicatorship for longer period; at least we should be able to tolerate for three years"
--Rape of mother or motherland shouldn't be tolerated even for a second.
4."It is better to be independent under dictatorship rather than becoming protectorate of foreign country."
--It is better to be citizen of an independent country (USA, UK, Japan, no matter where, even India) than be the slaves of one family.
5. "Attaturk's Turkey and deGaulle's France"
--Good point. But they didn't have to put up with a stupid monarchy. Strongest leader and the most nationalistic leader is made through democratic process, not by accident of birth in some butcher's family.
 
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KG was highly successful to outsmart political parties,

But it is clear that he cannot do the same with comrades in the Jungle.

What a painful experience for KG!!
Kasto din pani dekhnu paryo?? -- Bhandai soltee ma daru khandai hola.....

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Posted on 09-08-05 1:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shaiva-

As long as we are united India will not dare to invade Nepal. There is no risk of India invading as long as KG in power. There is risk that political parties are taking instruction from India and they might invite India to invade to fight against monarchy and RNA.

Don't look the matters from American perspective. We have not lost our national soveringty. We are still an independent nation. But, if the political leaders become too mcuh dependent to India then we will probably become one of the state like Sikkim. KM had to play China card, KB had to suffer embargo and now KG is absorbing intervention in internal affairs. But KG have never bow down to India like Girija, Makune, SuBaTha and Prachanda are doing.

I fully agree with your saying, "Rape of mother or motherland shouldn't be tolerated even for a second". That is what KG is doing to punish those who are raping motherland. Fighting against corrupt leaders, fighting against terrorist and fighting against anti- national elements is what KG is currently doing by taking all kind of risks.

Dictatorship for an interim period of three years is much more acceptable than to be an Indian protectorate.
"Nachineko chor bhanda chineko chor nai badhi jati hunchha"
"Kashmiri Syau bhanda hamrai jumla ra jomsom ko syau mitho mannu parchha"




 



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