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Posted on 05-14-06 12:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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My question to administrator is that why you removed threads created by leo_r? If it was due to caste why do you not remove all the threads which are communal? Now there are several people who are against caste that is good. But why these people grew up only when leo_r created threads? Any way i would like to thank leo_r for his effort to creat such wide mentality in sajha's people. And i do hope such mentality will be created soon on administrator as well.
 
Posted on 05-14-06 12:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thank you sachokura for pointing this out but you know what you are wasting you time saying anything to these people. These admin is himself from newari community so yah ofcouse he will find it offensive if someone talk about his people but its ok if somebody else is being harassed. The admin himself does not have the right mentality so don't bother asking these fools.
 
Posted on 05-14-06 12:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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u ppl are weird... i don't think admin deleted anything. bringing lame arguments over and over..

read this!!!

http://sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=32015

if you want your caste threads it's all here..
http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openforum.cfm?forum=131
 
Posted on 05-14-06 1:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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if it's too hard to click on the link..then let me post it here.. don't blame ppl for anything just at random ke!!


From San:

Just wanted to take a moment to point sajha visitors to the "Our Differences" discussion usergroup in sajha.

We have had to create this usergroup in order to classify some discussion topics as being nothing more than our differences. These topics mostly deteriorates into hot headed arguments and then further into intolerant, foul and indecent language.

It is the aim of sajha to bring together our diverse caste, clan, languages under one all inclusive tolerant society where we respect our differences yet come together as one Nepali family.

Sometimes this can be tough because it's easy to give a piece of ones mind under an anonymous name. In a way, this ability to express one's pent up anger and frustration is good. But too much of it begins to undermine the well being of the whole group. Deleting threads like that would be a easy way out but it does not mean that these things don't exist in our Nepali society.

More and more I have realized that Sajha is some kind of a virtual snapshot of our Nepali society. In real interactions it would not be feasible for everyone to express what they want regarding such caste issues hence in order to give space to these kind of real issues, I have created a discussion group called "Our Differences" where interested people can continue to discuss these issues, without making these the main discussions appearing on the front page of sajha.

Threads like these are not considered to be moved into the "Our Differences" group, until and unless this kind of discussion gets prolonged and continues for over a week. After that, these are moved over. You can access these and continue the discussions if you are interested in this location - http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openforum.cfm?forum=131

Let us join our hands and minds for more tolerant, respectful and positive discussions and interactions among us.

Best wishes,
San
 
Posted on 05-14-06 1:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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We visitors ignore such threads, it's impossible for an administer to do so. what we can do is to make a list of those who create such racists threads and uses bad languages against others in non-racist thread as well, and ignore/discourage them from all kurakani forums.
 
Posted on 05-14-06 2:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Cerine, I know that admin created another forum for this and removed all the newari thread there but how come the old bahun thread is still apperant in the front page, but all other racist thread are gone.
 
Posted on 05-14-06 2:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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guys we need to learn from the mistakes. trust me i was never raised in nepal therefore have a limited amount of knowledge in Nepal and it's society. Anyway i want to point out that removing hatred threads is not a solution. I am reading that there are so many hated threads against bahuns and newars. Again then when i visted Nepal few times and stayed there for couple of months i learnt a bit about Nepal. So i understand the mentality of person having grown up and educated in nepal.
The threads i been reading actually sheds some light too. It didn't mean that the hatred threads was meant to discrminate or spur the intended ethnic race into communal conflict.

Why i found Sajha to be a good platform to express freedom of speech is tremendous.

Without Sajha i doubt that they would be people like leo_r or others who would start all this hatred bias statements. Then again we have to see why some people start such controvisial statement and have many followers. This tell us that there's a BIG GAP of difference in Nepal's society. I agree with some the accusations pointed to bahus as well as newars in nepal. For example i have many bad ......really bad experiences with bahuns and chettris at the aiport, police-station, Ministry Of Education and whenever i entered the government offices.
Therefore by just staying in nepal for few months i can feel why so many people of other castes are Against bahuns/chettris. I see that many bahuns/chettris are working as Government and in the government-related offices are simply corrupted and are not fit to hold the post. Therefore bahuns and chettris of this new generations should admit that their parents and grandparents didn't really do a GOOD job in Nepal. All thses accusations shouldn't have pointed you guys in the first place if this was not TRUE.
But trust me. It's TRUE and i have experienced it myself.

And for newars...............i totally don't understand why they have to resort to their own languages and showing disrespect to other races. By being Nepali why can't they speak Nepali and show courtesy to fellow brothers and sisters. And if newars think ktm is only nepal then it is ignorant fool of them.

Finally although stayed for few months in nepal i also see and meet many nice bahuns and newars. It's just the government offices that ought to be kick and Newaris should ought to realise that Nepal especially ktm is not all about Newars.

Therefore sajha Administrator should not removed the hatred threads. Also the nepalis in sajha should not become hysterically angry just because some other races are accussing, blaming or saying negative views about you.
This is the time to come and think if these people are really saying all these because weather they are true or not!
And this is the time for us to realize our mistakes and correct it.
 
Posted on 05-14-06 2:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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there should be a balance between hate and love. We see so many love threads i guess it's about time we start seeing hate threads.
 
Posted on 05-14-06 2:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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In fact, sachokura and leo_r are the same sick person. Stupid people. Everyone who talks about caste is stupid.

No stupid bahun is higher than Newar and no stupid newar is greater than bahun.
 


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