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Posted on 06-03-06 10:54 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal's most money-making and forex earning hotel is closed for more than six months now. The poor employees are the hardest hit by it. But why would anyone close a money-making tree, i.e. hotel going on profit?

याक एण्ड यति बन्द प्रकरणमा राजा ज्ञानेन्द्रका छोरी ज्वाइँ राजबहादुर सिंहको नाम joडिएको निकटतम सूत्रहरू बताउँछन्। शाही शासनका बेला आफ्ना ससुराको नाम र शक्ति भजाएर व्यापार–व्यवसायमा जम्न खोजेका सिंहले होटल खरीद गर्ने मनसाय व्यक्त गरेपछि सर्राफ परिवारले नेपाल नै छाड्न चाहेको चर्चा पनि होटलजगतमा चलेको थियो। भित्रियाहरूका अनुसार, सिंहले अरुण सर्राफलाई दरबारमै बोलाएर करीब रु.९ अर्बको सम्पत्ति रहेको होटल निक्कै सस्तोमा बेच्न दबाब दिएपछि सर्राफ परिवार नेपालमा नबस्ने निर्णयमा पुगेको बुझिएको छ। र, यही बेला बहाना बन्यो– मजदुरहरूको माग। दरबारको दबाब खप्न नसकेपछि सर्राफ परिवारले नयाँदिल्लीमा लबिङ समेत गरेको थियो। दिल्लीले आफ्नो दूतावासमार्फत् दरबारमा विरोध जनाएपछि सिंहले प्रत्यक्ष दबाब दिन त छाडे, तर आफ्नो शक्ति प्रयोग गरेर नेपाल औद्योगिक विकास निगमका महाप्रबन्धक मिलनविक्रम शाहलाई हात लिएर होटलको बाटो बन्द गर्न लगाए, भित्रियाहरू बताउँछन्।

अर्का एकथरीको भनाइमा, शुरुमा दरबारको दबाब र पारिवारिक कलहका कारण बन्द गर्ने निर्णयमा पुगेको सर्राफ परिवार यतिखेर होटल खोल्नको लागि सिजन पर्खेर बसेको छ। सामान्यतयाः वर्षायाममा नेपालमा खासै पर्यटकहरू नआउने र सेप्टेम्बरदेखि मात्र उनीहरूको चाप बढ्ने हुनाले बेमौसममा होटल खोलेर घाटा व्यहोर्न मालिकहरू चाहँदैनन्। फेरि यसै पनि भाडाबाट उनीहरूलाई मासिक एक करोड रुपैयाँभन्दा माथिको रकम आइरहेकैले होटल बन्दको असर व्यवस्थापनलाई खासै परेको छैन। बन्द होटल परिसरमा रहेका अन्य संस्थाहरूबाट आउने भाडा नै उसलाई मनग्ये छ– रोयल क्यासिनोबाट रु.४५ लाख, विश्व ब्याङ्क, अमेरिकी कन्सुलर शाखा र पुस्तकालय तथा अन्य निकायहरूबाट करीब रु.७५ लाख।

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Posted on 06-03-06 1:36 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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is that guy really a graduate in computer science? or just a hoax?
 
Posted on 06-03-06 4:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It all fake!
Copies of his fake certificates were published in Janaaastha, the one he acquired from India.
I was told that he has a warrent in India for acquiring those fake certificates.
I couldnt tell if he even went to any school in US. I checked with my contacts in San Jose/San Francisco area and no one is aware of this guy taking any classes in any university. If he had been going to school I am sure people would have noticed.
 
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I dont think Raj Bahadur has any guts, he sits behind the curtains and makes his moves. Janaastha also published the story of how he kidnapped and forcefully took the required signatures and acquired the telecommunications license. I hope he will be punished for messing-up so many lives.
 
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To set the record straight, hi 8-), this Raj Bdr went to the US. According to my friends in the Bay Area of SF, California, he attended a college there for some time but mostly worked and hanged out with awaras. He never graduated nor attended any good school. Perhaps you are right he had fake certificates from India--and Jana Aastha did a good job of publishing them. But the royal propaganda machine published all over that he was a graduate of UC Berkley. What a joke!!! He couldn't even graduate from a community college and had a fake certificate imported from India. What he did well was screw a few girls, some Mexicans and some blacks, and even one married Nepali whom he first took in as a sister. That much is confirmed. Although it is none of our business, it hurts because you see a pattern of harming others, including--and this is the most important--our country and its revenue/business/credibility. He is such a lowly moron, I feel sorry for this Gyan Bdr's daughter!
 
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there are thousands of "raj bdr" like that, who manipulates or misuse the power, just coz he is now the "jwai of gayenendra" why such a big deal about him and weather he finished his college or not, and whatever else. thats his life, he chose not to then so be it.

and about his affair, i know that girl too, she even went to nepal on his wedding, thinking she wouldnt have any problem getting back to US. and how could you say, he's a cheater and tricked her, she's a mature women with 3 kids, she knew what she was doing. its boths fault.
 
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Mansion,

Yes, it is a big deal because he is a royal Jwain because he survives on tax money I would rather spend on health care for sick people. I would not have had a problem poking in his private life if he had not publicized that he went to Berkeley and if he had not had a royal wedding with my dad's tax money. What I find most offensive is the type of lie of publicizing he went to Berkley when he even did not even go to a community college. They also spread such lie about Paras graduating from Budhanilkantha school and Luther College whereas he was kicked out BNKS for beating up a teacher and he probably went to Luther for one semester.

And now, Raj Bahadur goes up to the point of shutting down one of the most famous hotel in Kathmandu for his greed. I do not know even corrupts like Girija or Sujata going to that extent. Do you know any?
 
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Pats,
Your analysis is abslutely right. It wouldn't be our concern what Raj Bdr did if he didn't survive on our tax money and if he--and the entire royal machinery--again surviving on our tax money would not resort to Goebles style propaganda. They think, like Hitler, if you repeat a lie 100 times, it becomes the truth.
Mansion, about the woman, she tells her friends--and one of her closest friends is my friend from high school and college--that he tricked her first and she got in it. While I said earlier also I don't buy her story entirely--as it takes two to tango--those are her words, and not mine.
 
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who is the girl frm california anyway that he slept around with?
 
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Pats and bnami,

I dont have anything to say about the ethics Mr. Raj Bahadur lives on. I like your reasonings about tax money. Are you sure bnami you really paid tax? Another issue is why is there no issue raised on tax money that is being wasted today. We are talking about issues that was in the past. He is not going to give that money back, and to be honest we don't even know how much of the tax money was used for the wedding. As far as I can tell, Gyanendra is pretty loaded on his own and I am sure he can put it some bucks here and there to make the wedding grand.

What about the tax money we are spending on Girija today? Everyone knows the dude has terminal cancer (if you didnt, I just told you). What about the millions they are spending on him? What about the issue of an inept person running a country? Would you like a person whos is sick running your country? What about his ethics now? Why don't we talk about that?

Past is past, what lies ahead is the toughest of all. I think we should talk more about the tax money misuse of the present and the future.
 
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yesterday is history
Tomorrow is Mystery
Today is A Gift
That's why it is called Present

Well the thing is we need to learn mistakes from history , Make today better.
Though tomorrow is mystery can put in better track.don't know where the track is going to take but if u have used better judgement today then would be good in future as well.

Nepal needs good tax reform.Most of the nepalese don't pay tax.The buisness men have maipulated the system.Well no tax system can be perfect but can make it better.

What i see in Nepal is we are repeating same mistakes from past again and again.
 
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well i don't know him but who saw rb screwing that mother of 3? and why is that your business? i mean common people sleeping with someone should not be a yardstick to measure someone. how many did you sleep with so far? so does that make you a bad person? and if he didn't forcefully did it... its not bad/unethical. why sex is so huge in our culture huh?

and regarding what university rb went? there are so many nepali living/studying in bay area... i live here and went to college here. but your source won't have a clue that i even exist here. so there! nepali community is not like what it used to be 10/15 or even 5 years ago. live that poor kid alone.
 
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Well Raj bahadur might be using your tax money but what about that lady in Cali whose privacy is being stripped here. Is she part of your dad's tax money too?
 
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just curious, does girija has a certificate from a valid university?? how about the other leaders. i've heard they lack on good education also....
see,coco cola factory produces coke, pepsi factory produces pepsi, corrupted Nepali society based on caste, high low class in terms of money and who you know, and praise to people because of thier money no matter it is from corruption produce people like Raj bahadur and Girija.
 
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When you become a public figure, your life becomes an open book! That is one of the risks you take when you become a public figure. You all know stories of Clinton-Leweinsky or Charles-Comilla affairs! Scores of Hollywood characters or Boys from Billionaires Clubs are always subject to public scrutinity. (Incidentally, they are not supported by your taxes, instead they pay taxes to support you!)
Having said that people like Raj Bahadur Singh are always around. Did not we hear fancy stories about Prince Dhirendra messing around with so many girls? King Mahendra had a illegitimate son. King Tribhuwan had 7 (yes Seven) illegitimate daughters. These facts are recored in Palace geneology.

We forgot why this this thread was started in the beginning. Raj Bahadur allegedly demanded to buy one of the popular hotels in Kathmandu, Hotel Yak and Yeti, from the owner, Sarraf family, presumably under the slight veil of threat which was enough for the owners to panic. They started running around seeking help from Delhi/Indian Embassy, and even planning to leave Nepal for good! If this is true, it sounds like classic Mafia style business dealing when the Mafia Boss Godfather tells the owner: "We will make an offer, you can't refuse!" And of course, when the seller refused, watch the movies Godfather and Bugsy for the answer!

No wonder, Nepal is always rolling down the hill!
 
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If they consider royal family, they have had every privileges in the country, they should not involved in dirty business, if they want to be business man they should give up Royal family title
 
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I have known RB for a long time and also know the family that sheltered him and the women he screwed! Also know the womens three kids. Let me tell you from personal experience that know the family - many of us were very troubled by their affair. I also know that RB had been receiving bhai-tika from that women for a very long time.
When I first met RB he was having lots of financial problems and could not afford living expenses. Then this family sheltered him. He stayed with them for a very long time, until he was married to the princess and moved away. I also know that he screwed not just the married woman of three but her unmarried sister as well.
Because of RB now one family of disintegrated, I agree that it is not just RBs fault, it takes two to tango. I do not believe that "he tricked me to have sex" story any woman can tell you no one can "trick" you to have sex!!!
It is sad that he screwed the family that sheltered him and now he is in Nepal trying to screw everyone up!!
 
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god damn fu(kcing royal bastards
 
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Bnami, Vincent, 08), Pats, Madhesi, Birkhe 03,
Thanks for your reasoned agreement. Yes, if you are a public figure--or want to be one and take advantage of that position--you should be held liable to public scrutiny.
Tick,
Thanks for your additional info.
Mansion,
Yes, there may be thousands of Raj BDRs, but they are not liars, licentious, and corrupt on tax-payers' money. As Pats and others have reminded, he is the jwain of gyane on an extortion-spree--the above news piece is an example and the following one is one more. There are thousands of cases like this, many of them reported in Nepali press despite the pressure not to by the erstwhile royal government and its cronies!!! Now would you say, pubish about Maoists' and others' extortion but not Raj Bdr's because he is Gyane's jwain?
Dyamn,
For your info, nobody has yet released the name of the woman involved here nor any other identifying info on this thread. If you already know her and are worried now, you can't blames us or the thread. Too bad, it was already widely reported in Nepal and US Nepali communities. Now how come you start advocating her privacy? Or is it a veiled defense of Raj BDR and his crooked acts? Or will you go ahead to advocate for the privacy rights of the two bank looters whose fotos were widely distributed last week in Nepal and outside? Raj BDR is a looter, he simply uses more subtle techniques and his association with Gyane's family. You should also read Tick's info up here. Besides, I did start the thread and it was never mentioned in the news.
Dreamer, I can't reveal the name of the woman who this Raj BDR slept with. Although I don't approve of her act, much less Raj BDR's, I think she has already paid for it in some ways. But more importantly, she has nothing to do with Raj BDR's extortion-spree, and she should be left alone here.
And others,
Why would you want to sidetrack the discussion if not worried by these news? Let's stay focused and bring out the facts. I understand why it hurts some, but well, there is no cure now.

Well, here is another news about this Raj BDR from today's Kantipur: Sit tight you royalists.
विद्युतीय रेलमार्गमा शाही नातेदारलाई अनुमति
विकास थापा
काठमाडौं, जेठ २१ - वीरगन्जबाट राजधानी जोड्ने विद्युतीय रेलमार्ग निर्माणका लागि एउटा कम्पनीले दिएको निवेदन अस्वीकार गरी अघिल्लो सरकारले शाही नातेदारको कम्पनीलाई अनुमति दिएको खुलासा भएको छ ।
राजा ज्ञानेन्द्रका ज्वाइँ राजबहादुर शाहीले खोलेको कम्पनी बेञ्चमार्क नेपाललाई उक्त रेलवे परियोजनाको 'अध्ययन तथा सर्वेक्षण' को अनुमति गत फागुन २५ गते दिएको हो । जबकि त्यही परियोजनाका लागि नेपाली इन्जिनियरहरूको समूहद्वारा गठित इन्प|mास्ट्रक्चर नेपाल प्राइभेट लिमिटेडले सम्भाव्यता अध्ययनसमेत गरी कार्यान्वयनका लागि २०५९ सालमा निवेदन दिएको थियो ।

बनाउने, सञ्चालन गर्ने र सरकारलाई पछि हस्तान्तरण गर्ने -बुट अवधारणा) अन्तर्गत निर्माणका लागि इन्प|mास्ट्रक्चरले अध्ययन गरेको प्रतिवेदन बेञ्चमार्कले हुबहु नक्कल गरी भौतिक योजना तथा निर्माण मन्त्रालयमा प्रस्ताव गरेको थियो ।

वीरगन्जदेखि काठमाडौंसम्म एक सय ३५ किलोमिटर लम्बाइको उक्त परियोजनासम्बन्धी प्रस्तावलाई अनुमति दिन माघ १९ अघि र पछिका सबै सरकारहरूले स्वीकार गरेको इन्प|mास्ट्रक्चरका प्रबन्ध निर्देशक शम्भुपाणि गौतमले बताए ।

उनका अनुसार कम्पनीले परियोजनाका लागि ०५९ मंसिरमा मन्त्रालयमा निवेदन हालेको थियो । 'सबैले आश्वासन दिए, कसैले काम गरेनन्,' उनले बताए ।

निवेदन दिएयता तत्कालीन भौतिक योजनामन्त्री नारायणसिंह पुन, सचिव भारती शर्मा, त्यसपछिका मन्त्री बुद्धिमान तामाङ, प्रकाशमान सिंह, सचिव टीकादत्त निरौला, प्रधानमन्त्री सूर्यबहादुर थापा, शेरबहादुर देउवा, योजना आयोग उपाध्यक्ष शंकर शर्मालगायत सबैलाई भेटेर परियोजनाबारे जानकारी गराएको गौतमले बताए ।

करिब दुई घन्टा दस मिनेटमा काठमाडौंबाट वीरगन्ज पुगिने उक्त रेलमार्गका लागि बुट अवधारणाअन्तर्गत संयुक्त विदेशी लगानी गर्न दाताहरू तयारसमेत भइसकेको दाबी थियो ।

गौतमका अनुसार राजबहादुर शाहीले अनुमति पाइसकेपछि 'तपाईंहरूलाई २ प्रतिशत सेयर दिन हामी तयार छौं' भनेका थिए । मन्त्रालयका सहसचिव मदन गोपाल मलेगु संयोजक रहेको समितिले सिफारिस गरी योजना आयोगमा पठाएको थियो । आयोगले प्रस्ताव गरेपछि शाही मन्त्रिपरिषद्ले गत फागुन २५ गते राजबहादुरको कम्पनीलाई दिने निर्णय भएको स्राेतले

बतायो । यससम्बन्धी बेञ्चमार्क कम्पनीका अधिकारीसँग भेट हुन सकेन । राजबहादुर शाही विदेश गएकाले कोही पनि प्रतिक्रिया दिन तयार भएनन् । तर संयोजक मलेगुले भने बेञ्चमार्कको प्रस्ताव राम्राे भएकाले उसैलाई दिएको दाबी गरे । 'बेञ्चमार्कको प्रस्ताव 'उपयुक्त' देखिएकाले उसैलाई दिने निर्णय भयो,' मलेगुले भने । इन्प|mास्ट्रक्चर नेपालका प्रबन्ध निर्देशक गौतमले आफ्नो कम्पनीले धेरै मिहिनेत गरेर परियोजनाको सम्भाव्यता अध्ययन गरेको बताए ।
 
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VincentBodge,
you said :As far as I can tell, Gyanendra is pretty loaded on his own and I am sure he can put it some bucks here and there to make the wedding grand.

I wonder why did he used Nepal goverment money to do his Grand son's bhat khoi, Also why did he use our money on his daughter's wedding.
I used to hear that he is a business man I wonder is he a business man or tried his ass to be a dictatorship and could not succeed.

You think he is loaded, If you still think he is than you are one of the MANDALE as well
 
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no body is going to pay the tax unpaid not even Spa leaders or king. So, the point is new tax laws .more accountablity on TAx frauds.More accountablity on Corruption.Do u think all the congressi ministers are going to return the money that they digested ?
 



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