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 ILLEGAL to use own WATER!!!!!!
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Posted on 06-23-07 11:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ya Rivers has been literally sold to India by the Nepalese Government leaded by Nepali Congress and Girija Prasad Koirala. This is how I have came to conclusion that Rivers has been sold.
--- Nepalese farmers cannot irrigate their field within 50 miles of the border from Mahakhali river water.
--- In Nepalese side of the land, all the field are dry and there are no agricultural products planted there because they dont have water. But in the other side of Mahakhali river in Indian side, Indian farmers make good money selling agricultural products to Nepalese people. Nepalese farmers have to cross bridge, go to Indian side and buy vegetables there.
---- There are several incidence where Nepalese farmers were shot by indian border troops just because theyy tried to irrigate their fields from the Nepal's river.Beleieve me.Its true.
--- In the other side of Tanakpur, 1000's of acres of land are planted with crops and veegtables by Indian Farmes using Nepalese rivers to irrigate them.
-- And In Nepalese side of Tanakpur, 1000's of acres of land are dry. Because there is no water.
-- In 1995, small Nepalese village in the border wanted to open a small hydroelectricity to produce electricity for 150 house BY USING waters from Mahakhali River. But Indian official didnt liked that idea. Indian police came to that village and beat the villagers and threaten them. Nepalese officials were just watching!!!!!!!!!!!

Now frens, tell me.....Is this fair. Nepalese people cant use waters from their river which flows from Nepal's side???????And its illegal too......!!!!!!!!Can you all beleive this!!!!!

What kind of agreement did Girija and Nepali Congress did with India abt this river that makes illegal for Nepalese to use their own water????? How much money$$$$$ did Girija and his party made by making such a deal with INdia???
 
Posted on 06-23-07 4:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It seems Gyanendra is less corrupt and more patriotic than Political leaders.
 
Posted on 06-23-07 6:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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wa were ya'all thinkin till today??? political leaders are far more corrupt than gyanendra.. those mothafckers gonna sell nepal to india someday
 
Posted on 06-24-07 11:28 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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yOU ARE RIGHT HUNTER BRO.....

I WONT BE SURPRIZED THAT DAY......
 
Posted on 06-24-07 11:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Is this the treaty you are referring to?

http://www.nepaldemocracy.org/documents/treaties_agreements/indo-nepal_treaty_mahakali.htm

or

http://www.wafed-nepal.org/INFORMATION/South-Asian-Water-Treaties/154.html

Article 5 says, both India and Nepal can use the waterfrom Mahakali river. I did not read the whole treay. It is too long and i have no patience to rea all that..however, it does say it was signed by Sher Bahadur deuba, not GP Koirala.. Please someone read the treaty and post his/her criticism hee. Thanks.



Treaty of Mahakali

TREATY-- HIS MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT OF NEPAL AND THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA CONCERNING THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT OF THE MAHAKALI RIVER INCLUDING SARADA BARRAGE, TANAKPUR BARRAGE AND PANCHESHWAR PROJECT (1996)

His Majesty's Government of NEPAL and the Government of INDIA (hereinafter referred to as the "parties")

Reaffirming the determination to promote and strengthen their relations of friendship and close neighborliness for the co-operation in the development of water resources;

Recognizing that the Mahakali River is a boundary river on major stretches between the two countries;

Realizing the desirability to a treaty on the basis of equal partnership to define their obligations and corresponding rights and duties thereto in regard to the waters of the Mahakali River and its utilization;

Noting the Exchange of Letters of 1920 through which both the Parties had entered into an arrangement for the construction of the Sarada Barrage in the Mahakali river, whereby Nepal is to receive some waters from the said Barrage;

Recalling the decision taken in the Joint Commission dated 4-5 December, 1991 and the Joint CommuniquÈ issued during the visit of the Prime Minister of India to Nepal on 21st October, 1992 regarding the Tanakpur Barrage which India has constructed in a course of the Mahakali River with a part of the eastern afflux bund at Jimuwa and the adjoining poundage area of the said Barrage lying in the Nepalese territory;

Noting that both the Parties are jointly preparing a Detailed Project Report of the Pancheshwar Multipurpose project to be implement in the Mahakali River;

Now, therefore, the Parties hereto hereby have agreed as follows:

Article-1

1. Nepal shall have right to a supply of 28.35m3/s (1000 cusecs) of water from the Sarada Barrage in the wet season (i.e. from 15th May to 15th October) and 4.25m3/s (150 cusecs) in the dry season (i.e. from 16th October to 14th May).

2. India shall maintain a flow of not less than 10m3/s(350cusecs) downstream of the Sarada Barrage in the Mahakali River to maintain and preserve the river eco-system.

3. In case the Sarada Barrage becomes non-functional due to any cause:

(a) Nepal shall have the right to a supply of water as mentioned in paragraph 1 of this Article, by using the head regulator(s) mentioned in paragraph 2 of Article 2 herein. Such a supply of water shall be in addition to the water to be supplied to Nepal pursuant to paragraph 2 of Article 2.

(b) India shall maintain the river flow pursuant to paragraph 2 of this article from the tailrace of the Tanakpur Power Station downstream of the Sarada Barrage.

Article-2

In continuation of the decisions taken in the Joint Commission dated 4-5 December 1991 and the Joint CommuniquÈ issued during the visit of the Prime Minister of India to Nepal on 21st October, 1992, both the Parties agree as follows:

1. For the construction of the eastern afflux bund of the Tanakpur Barrage at Jimuwa and tying it up to the high ground in the Nepalese territory at EL 250 M, Nepal gives its consent to use a piece of land of about 577 meters in length (an area of about 2.9 hectares) of the Nepalese territory at the Jimuwa village in Mahendranagar Municipal area and a certain portion of the No-Man's Land on either side of the border. The Nepalese land consented to be so used and the land lying on the west of the said land ( about 9 hectares) upto the Nepal-India border which forms a part of the poundage area, including the natural resources endowment lying within that area, remains under the continued sovereignty and control of Nepal and Nepal is free to exercise all attendant rights thereto .

2. In lieu of the eastern afflux bund of the Tanakpur Barrage, at Jimuwa thus constructed, Nepal shall have the right to:

(a) A supply of 28.35m3/s (1000cusecs) of water in the wet season (i.e. from 15th May to 15th October) and 8.50m3/s (300 cusecs) in the dry season (i.e. from 16th October to 14th May ) from the date of the entry into force of this treaty. For this purpose and for the purpose of Article I herein India shall construct the head regulators near the left under sluice of the Tanakpur Barrage and also the waterways of the repaired capacity upto the Nepal-India border. Such head regulators and waterways shall be operated jointly.

(b) A supply of 70 millions Kilowatt-hour (unit) of energy on a continuous basis annually, free of cost, from the date of the entry into force of this Treaty. For this purpose, India shall construct a 132 kv transmission line upto the Nepal-India border from the Tanakpur power station (which has at present, an installed capacity of 120,000 kilowatt generating 448.4 millions kilowatt-hour of energy annually on 90 percent dependable year flow).

3. Following arrangements shall be made at the Tanakpur Barrage at time of development of any storage projects including Pancheshwar Multipurpose project upstream of the Tanakpur Barrage:

(a) Additional head regulator and the necessary waterways, as required, up to the Nepal-India border shall be constructed to supply additional water to Nepal. Such head regulator and waterways shall be operated jointly.

(b) Nepal shall have additional energy equal to half of the incremental energy generated from the Tanakpur power Station, on a continuous basis from the date of augmentation of the flow of the Mahakali River and shall bear half of the additional operation cost and, if required, half of the additional capital cost at the Tanakpur Power Station for the generation of such incremental energy.

Article-3

Pancheshwar Multipurpose Project (hereinafter referred to as the "Project") is to be constructed on a stretch of the Mahakali River where it forms the boundary between the two countries and hence both the parties agree that they have equal entitlement in the utilization of the waters of the Mahakali River without prejudice to their respective existing consumptive uses of the waters of the Mahakali River. Therefore, both the parties agree to implement the project in the Mahakali River in accordance with the Detailed Project Report(DPR) being jointly prepared by them. The project shall be designed and implemented on the basis of the following principles;

1. The Project shall, as would be agreed between the parties, be designed to produce the maximum total net benefits. All benefits accruing to both the parties with the development of the project in the forms of power, irrigation, flood control etc., shall be assessed.

2. The Project shall be implemented or caused to be implemented as an integrated project including power stations of equal capacity on each side of the Mahakali River. The two power stations shall be operated in an integrated manner and the total energy generated shall be shared equally between the parities.

3. The cost of the project shall be borne by the parties in proportion to the benefits accruing to them. Both the parties shall jointly endeavor to mobilize the finance required for the implementation of the project.

4. A portion of Nepal's Share of energy shall be sold to India. The quantum of such energy and its price shall be mutually agreed upon between the parties.

Article-4

India shall supply 10 m3/s (350 cusecs) of water for the irrigation of Dodhara Chandani area of Nepalese Territory. The technical and other details will be mutually worked out.

Article-5

1. Water requirements of Nepal shall be given prime consideration in the utilization of the waters of the Mahakali River.

2. Both the parties shall be entitled to draw their share of waters of the Mahakali River from the Tanakpur Barrage and/or other mutually agreed points as provided for in this treaty and any subsequent agreement between the parties.

Article-6

Any project, other than those mentioned herein, to be developed in the Mahakali River, where it is a boundary river, shall be designed and implemented by an agreement between the parties on the principles established by this Treaty.

Article-7

In order to maintain the flow and level of the waters of the Mahakali River, each party undertakes not to use or obstruct or divert the waters of the Mahakali River adversely affecting its natural flow and level except by an agreement between the parties provided, however, this shall not preclude the use of the waters of the Mahakali river by the local communities living along both sides of the Mahakali River, not exceeding five(5) percent of the average annual flow at Pancheshwar.

Article-8

This Treaty shall not preclude planning, survey, development and operation of any work on the tributaries of the Mahakali River, to be carried out independently by each party in its own territory without adversely affecting the provision of Article 7 of this Treaty.

Article-9

1. There shall be a Mahakali River Commission (hereinafter referred to as the "commission"). The Commission shall be guided by the principles of equality, mutual benefit and no harm to either party.

2. The commission shall be composed of equal number of representatives from both the parties.

3. The functions of the Commission shall, inter alia, include the following:

(a) To seek information on and if necessary, inspect all structures included in the Treaty and make recommendations to both the parties to take steps which shall be necessary to implement the provisions of this Treaty.

(b) To make recommendations to both the parties for the conservation and utilization of the Mahakali River as envisaged and provided for in this Treaty.

(c) To provide expert evaluation of projects and recommendations thereto.

(d) To co-ordinate and monitor plans of actions arising out of the implementation of this Treaty, and

(e) To examine any differences arising between the parties concerning the interpretation and application of this Treaty.

4. The expenses of the commission shall be borne equally by both the parties.

5. As soon as the Commission has been constituted pursuant to paragraph 1 and 2 of this Article, it shall draft its rules of procedure which shall be submitted to both the parties for their concurrence.

6. Both the parties shall reserve their rights to deal directly with each other on matters which may be in the competence of the commission.

Article-10

Both the parties may form project specific joint entity/ies for the development, execution and operation of new projects including Pancheshwar Multipurpose Project in the Mahakali River for their mutual benefit.

Article-11

1. If the commission fails under Article 9 of this Treaty to recommend its opinion after examining the differences of the parties within three (3) months of such reference to the Commission or either party disagrees with the recommendation of the commission, then a dispute shall be deemed to have been arisen which shall then be submitted to arbitration for decision in so doing either party shall give three(3) months prior notice to the other party.

2. Arbitration shall be conducted by a tribunal composed of there arbitrators. One arbitrator shall be nominated by Nepal, one by India, with neither country to nominate its own national and the third arbitrator shall be appointed jointly, who, as a member of the tribunal, shall preside over such tribunal. In the event that the parties are unable to agree upon the third arbitrator within ninety(90) days after receipt of a proposal, either party may request the Secretary-General of the Permanent Court of Arbitration at the Hague to appoint such arbitrator who shall not be a national of either country.

3. The procedures of the arbitration shall be determined by the arbitration tribunal and the decision of a majority of the arbitrators shall be the decision of the tribunal. The proceeding of the tribunal shall be conducted in English and the decision of such a tribunal shall be in writing both the parties shall accept the decision as final, definitive and binding.

4. Provision for the venue of arbitration, the administrative support of the arbitration tribunal and the remuneration the expenses of its arbitrators shall be as agreed in an exchange of notes between the parties. Both the parties may also agree by such exchange of notes on alternative procedures for setting differences arising under this Treaty.

Article-12

1. Following the conclusion of this Treaty, the earlier understandings reached between the parties concerning the utilization of the waters of the Mahakali River from the Sarada Barrage and the Tanakpur Barrage, which have been incorporated herein, shall be deemed to have been replaced by this Treaty.

2. This Treaty shall be subject to ratification and shall enter into force on the date of exchange of instruments of ratification. It shall remain valid for a period of seventy-five (75) years from the date of its entry into force.

3. This Treaty shall be reviewed by both the parties at ten (10) years interval or earlier as required by either party and make amendments thereto, if necessary.

4. Agreements, as required, shall be entered into by the parties to give effect to the provisions of this Treaty.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned being duly authorized thereto by their respective governments have hereto signed this Treaty and affixed thereto their seals in two originals each in Hindi, Nepali and English languages, all the texts being equally authentic. In case of doubt, the English text shall prevail.

Done at New Delhi, India on the twelfth day of February of the year one thousand nine hundred and ninety six.

Sd........................................

(P.V. Narasimha Rao)
Prime Minister
Government of India.
Sd.............................................

(Sher Bahadur Deuba)
Prime Minister
His Majesty's Government of Nepal.
 
Posted on 06-24-07 2:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I know its a very sad thing to know about all these issues.
But I guess these things wont change till we have some "educated" people in politics.
So far, most of the people that are into mainstream politics are there just because they cant do anything but politics.
We need some educated and qualified people who have other options besides politics.
I am sure things will change if we have better educated and qualified people in polotics.
I know things wont change overnight...it takes time and I dont see too much that we can do to change things quickly.
But even spreading awareness among people will make some difference.
So wherever we are (nepal, US, UK or other placese away from home), lets try our best to discourage people to vote for the "traditional " uneducated people who get posts just because they have served jail sentences. We need people who can make policies and bring changes in the society.....lets al try our best...
 
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While I was in Nepal, I used to read lot of news of Nepalese farmers getting shot by Indian border troops while trying to use water for the irrigation in their field..
 
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All these sad news but is anyone doing anything about it?
 
Posted on 06-28-07 2:06 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If Nepal had natural resouces of oil, gold or diamond...girija and other leaders would make Nepal like Shierra Lieon or like some other countries...
 


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