Nothing communal or hatred for anyone here (I don't want any posts coming back hating all Hindus, etc. as this book of law reflects the mentality at a certain period in time that has long since gone). However, no matter how holy the scriptures may be, the Manusmriti just has to go as it plainly has no place in society today. This is hardcore racism in the name of religion!

Below is an excerpt from the Manusmriti (one of Hinduism's foremost religious text). The Manusmriti gave each varna their rightful place in society but for reasons we can clearly see unfair, the ones who wrote it are the ones who gained the most (the Brahmanas). They imposed these laws stating it was passed on by Manu and similar to the Moslem zealots and jihads today, they were the ones who ultimately brought about the overall downfall of their once proud/peaceful religion BUT overflowing with caste heirarchy.

What were these ancient retards thinking when they wrote this BS?? The last paragraph sums it all.


An excerpt from the Manusmriti – Law book of Hindus

I – 91. One occupation only the lord prescribed to the shudra to serve meekly even these other three castes.

I – 93. As the Brahmana sprang from (Prajapati’s i.e. God’s ) mouth, as he was first-born, and as he possesses the veda, he is by right the lord of this whole creation.

II – 31. Let (the first part of ) a brahmin’s (denote) something auspicious, a kshatriya’s name be connected with power and a vaishya’s with wealth, but a Shudra’s (express something) contemptible.

II-32. (The second part of) a brahmin’s (name) shall be (a word) implying happiness, of a kshatriya’s (word) implying protection, of a Vaishya’s (a term) expressive of thriving, and of a shudra’s (an expression) denoting service.

II – 100. Whatever exists in the world is the property of the Brahmana; on account of the excellence of his origin the Brahmana is indeed, entitled to it all.


Regarding the study of Vedas by shudras:

IV – 99. He (the twice born) must never read (the vedas) ----- in the presence of the shudras.

VIII – 37. When a learned Brahmin has found treasure, deposited in former (times), he may take even the whole (of it); for he is the master of everything.

VIII – 270. A shudra who insults a twice born man with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; for he is of low origin.

VIII – 271. If he mentions names and castes of the (twice born) with contumely, an iron nail, ten fingers, shall be thrust red hot into his mouth.

VIII – 410. King should order each man of the mercantile class to practice trade, or money lending or agriculture and attendance on cattle; and each man of the servile class to act in the service of the twice born.


About the status of women:

IX – 3 . Her father protects (her) in childhood, her husband protects (her) in youth and her sons protect (her) in old age; a woman is never fit for independence.

IX – 18. Women have no business with the text of the veda.



IX – 189. The property of a Brahmana must never be taken by the king, that is a settled rule; but (the property of men) of other castes the king may take on failure of all (heirs).

IX – 317. A Brahmin, whether learned or ignorant, is a powerful divinity.

X – 121. If a shudra (unable to subsist by serving brahmanas) seeks a livelihood, he may serve kshatriyas, or he may also seek to maintain himself by attending on a wealthy viashya.

X – 122. But let a shudra serve brahmans, either for the sake of heaven or with a view to both this life and the text, for he who is called the servant of a Brahmana thereby gains all his ends.

X – 123. The service of the Brahmana alone is declared to be an excellent occupation for a shudra; for whatever else besides this he may perform will bear no fruit.


Dealing with the question of wages to the shudras:

X – 124. They must allot to him (shudra) out of their own family property a suitable maintenance, after considering his ability, his industry and the number of those whom he is bound to support.

X – 125. The remnants of their food must be given to him, as well as their old clothes, the refuge of their grain and their old household furniture.

X – 129. No collection of wealth must be made by a shudra even though he be able to do it; for a shudra who has acquired wealth gives pain to Brahmana.

XI – 6. One should give, according to one’s ability, wealth to Brahmanas learned in the veda and living alone; (thus) one obtains after death heavenly bliss.

XI – 261-62. A Brahmana who has killed even the peoples of the three worlds, is completely freed from all sins on reciting three times the Rig, Yajur or Sama- Veda with the Upanishad.

Thus in Hinduism, there is no choice of avocation. There is no economic independence and there is no economic security. Economically, speaking of a shudra is a precarious thing.

Successors of Manu made the disability of the shudra in the matter of study of veda into an offence involving dire penalties as:

XII. 4. If the shudra intentionally listens for committing to memory the veda, then his ears should be filled with (molten) lead and lac; if he utters the veda, then his tongue should be cut off; if he has mastered the veda his body should be cut to pieces.

Damn, this all seems so brutal. By reading this, it is obvious that the Brahmanas were looking out for themselves. The Kshatriyas to protect them, the Vaishyas to collect wealth, which according to the Brahmins belongs to them and the Shudras to serve them without any sort of payment. The most fascinating thing about this is, they got the whole nation to follow these rules made up by them for centuries!! I dont know how people saw through it before, but I guess they were obeying the gods!

As the Brahmanas said, Rules laid out by Manu, the first King of all mankind (and how da hell did they know??). And surprisingly they got the whole kingdom to follow this bull. Outright BS. The minority controlling the majority aka Saddam's Sunnis controlling the Shias and the Kurds.

Imagine reading this and thnking wtf: "A Brahmana who has killed even the peoples of the three worlds, is completely freed from all sins on reciting three times the Rig, Yajur or Sama- Veda with the Upanishad."

Well, there wasn't any bibliography for this excerpt; it would have made it even more forceful. It's appreciable to discuss about religion and all those blindfolded custom & rituals which we are following. ( in nepali which we call biralo badhne chalan)

Thanks Samsara.

धर्मको पालन गर्नु भनेको स्व-अनुशासित हुनु, सत्कर्म गर्नु आदी हुन।
तर हाम्रो धर्मका अधिकारि र श्रोत ब्राम्हण हरु बाट भए किनकी, यिनी हरु याहूदी हरु जस्ताइ चलाख अनी स्याल जस्ताइ ध्रुत थिए ।
पढे लेखेका पनि यिनी हरु मा त्र भए।
तेस युगका लाटा जनताका देसका बाठा तन्देरी भएका ले, सन्स्क्रित भाषा लाई सरलिकरण नगरेर , ५-६ शब्दहरुलाई एकै थाउमा जोडी झनै साधारण जनजाती बाट टाढा बनाइ, आफ्नो एक्लौती बनाए।
जे जती पनि लेखे लेखिए आफ्नो जात लाई जगेर्ना गर्ने बाहेक केही गरेनन,
जात भात् को नाममा बिभाजन गरी एकले अर्को माथि सामाजिक रुपमा शासन गर्ने प्रकिया श्रीजना गरे।
महिला लाई पुरुसको सम्पत्ति र सुद्रलाई सबैको सेबक बनाए। दर खाने दिन एसैको उपज हो।
यो सबै सिछित बर्गले अशिछित माथि को शासन, शोषन हो।
राजा देसक सासक तर जनता माथि शासन गर्ने चाँही सिछित बर्ग जुन चाँही ब्राह्मण परे .
तेसैले आफ्नो जातको रक्षा गर्न को लागि उनिहरु बाट लिखित पुस्तक मा ब्राह्मणको सम्पत्ति राजाबाट अपहरण हुनु धर्मको बिप्तित हो।

भारत बर्षका ब्राम्हण हरु ज्यादै नै , हठी र निस्ठुरी र यिनै माओ बादी जस्ताइ आफ्नो सिमित स्वार्थमा डुबेका थिए।
एक जनाले भन्द्थे, चङेग खान र उन्का अनुयाइहरु एउटा सस्कार र धर्म बिहिन योद्दा थिए

भारत बर्ष जिते पछी उनिहरुले हाम्रो सन्काको पालना गर्ने इछा लाई , जन्म बाट मात्रा पाइने हो , तिमी हरु हिन्दू हुन सक्दैनौ को ऊपज हो मुसलामअन्को जन्म भएको
यिनी हरुले खाडीमुलुक जिते पछी त्याहाको धर्म रोजी हिन्दूस्तान लिएर आए।
नत्र ईस्लाम भारत बर्षमा कहाँ छिर्दथ्यो र।
यो सबै बोउद्दिक बर्गले गर्ने ब्यबस्था ka पुस्तक हरु हुन तेसैले शोषन बहेक केही पाउने आश नगरि बरु बिगतमा सामाजिक ब्यबस्त कुन रुपमा र कस्ले कसरी च् लाएका रहेछन भन्ने ईतिहासको रुपमा हेर्नु बेस होला।

Manu Smriti is one of the very few criticized Hindu texts. Many saints, of the time when this text was composed and during different times that followed, have criticized this text. There are of course some people, still present, that followed and are still following and probably will follow Manu Smriti's principles but one who truly knows the Hindu religion has always and should always denounce selfish excepts like the ones listed above because in no other holy Hindu texts including the Holy Gita has it been written that there should be no caste systems or the untouchables or just certain people are entitled to vidas and puranas. Instead we find that every one-man and woman belonging to different caste and creed have the equal right to the vedas and puranas as all of the us are the children of the God.

If we look into our holy scriptures including the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, we find that many great saints have not followed with the Manu Smriti's principles, because the biggest "dharma" according to the Hindu dharma is non-violence and the biggest sin or "paap" is knowingly hurting others with actions or speech or thoughts. It is very unfortunate that the negativeness of the Manu Smriti was followed for a long period of time and still is followed in some parts of Nepal and India and as a result many people have suffered.

But, it has nothing to do to Hinduism, just man made and twisted by some people to fulfill their selfish intentions.

Naya Sadak,

Your last line hit the nail on the head.