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 Sex and Meditation- My Experience
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''The Pleasure of Meditation is 100 times better than of Sex and, pleasure of Sex lats only for a moment''
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problems, problems and problems, this shit life, that shit tension, fucckked up by tough time, not happy with life, Tired of Materialistic world? R U? YES I was so just went to seek the spiritual support and here is my honest and candid experience from 10 DAYS MEDITATION CAMP. Can u believe, I meditated 11 hours every day, and did not speak even a single word, totally detached from outer world. Enjoy reading.

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The environment was peaceful and truly natural. Chirping of the birds, morning dew on tender leaves, cold air blowing gently, all these added real beauty to the environment. The wake up bell rang at the first dawn of the morning at four o' clock. The sound vibrates throughout the Shivapuri hill and produced soft and melodious sound. By four thirty we had to reach for meditation at meditation hall called Dhamma hall, so there was rush at toilet and bathroom.



We were around 150 souls there for the real journey into mind and our main objective was to penetrate the deepest level of the unconscious mind and learn how to eradicate the complexes lying there. People from different parts of the world were there. And we could see the people from eighteen years to eighty years; great numbers of foreigners were there with great curiousity. But all of us wanted the same and have had the same mission "Deep surgical operation of mind" through ancient art of meditation Vipassanna. It was ten days course at Muhan Pokhari, Budhanilkantha, Nepal Vipassana Centre in the laps of Shivapuri National Park just 30 minutes drive from Kathmandu. The place was just perfect and appropriate in the middle of the luscious jungle far away from hustle and bustle of the city.



Vipassanna, an ancient yet very much scientific art of meditation was taught by Lord Gautam Buddha around twenty five hundred years ago. Vipassana means, "to see the things as they really are". And also "the process of self-purification by self observation". Similarly the ultimate goal of it is to give the highest spiritual goals of total liberation and full enlightenment. It does not believe in theory or in any religion. This technique was vanished for many hundred of years but in 20th century a business tycoon of Myanmar (then Burma) Satya Narayan Goenka popularly known as SN Goenka took the mission to help the people of the world with this wonderful technique Vipassana. As a result now there are many vipassanna centres around the world including in Nepal, India, Australia, USA, Japan, New Zealand, Canada, Myanmar, Thailand, Sri Lanka and in other countries. Millions of people around the world have learnt this art and changed their lives entirely. Be it Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jain, Shikh or from any other religion; everyone has benefited from it. In Nepal, Nepal Vipassana Centre was established in 1981AD and there are four such centres in Nepal in Kathmandu, Birgunj, Chitwan and at the birthplace of Lord Buddha Lumbini.


Well, as our first day began at four in the morning, I could see all excitement in everybody's face. The life at Vipassana was totally different and unbelievable. Those ten days in one sense were the most suffering and difficult days of my life physically, mentally and psychologically. We had to follow all the rules and regulations and should be self disciplined. We all were not allowed to speak even a single word, if we had any questions then only we could talk to our teacher and management. For the whole ten days we had to maintain "Noble Silence". Noble silence means not just maintaining silence of verbalisation but also of gesture, signals, eyes and action. The main objective of this was to keep oneself focused which helps tremendously in meditation. There, we should cultivate the feeling that we were working in isolation. There was one more thing, which we had to follow conscientiously during the whole Vipassanna course. The five precepts which include to abstain from killing any living creature, stealing, telling lies, all sexual activities and to abstain from all intoxicants.

The life at Vipassanna was not different than of prison. There in jail you could speak and share your feelings of happiness and sorrow ness to your fellow prisoners but here that was also not allowed. No newspapers, no TV, no radio, no telephone, no magazines, no book, no pen nothing as a whole out of communication world to concentrate on oneself. Any form of communication was strictly prohibited. In Dhamma Hall there were blue cushions over the sophisticated carpet. Hard to believe we had to sit for meditation ten hours a day. Yes every day ten hours.

At first day we all were asked to do "Aanapana" knowing about the ongoing respiration and breathing process. I realised for the first time in my life how irrepressible and uncontrollable is our wild mind. And it was really big job to keep under control even for five–ten minutes. Already physical pain was there. All of us who were like self made prisoners felt where had we come to give such pain and trouble? Next bell rang at 6:30, two hours meditation is over. I felt severe pain, my legs were swollen and bones of the knees were about to break. As I came out of the hall everyone was feeling the same, I guessed, but the tragedy was that we could speak nothing and had to observe the silence of body speech and mind.

Breakfast was ready in dinning hall, there was queue for breakfast but it was very much systematic. The dinning hall was spacious, clean, well furnished and well arranged. Even better than that was the delicious food and the service of the volunteers (Dhamma workers). Along with the food we got a glass of milk. The spacious dinning hall was just silent; the sound of utensils was heard occasionally. After having food we had to wash our plates ourselves and by eight we had to be ready for meditation so that was time to take rest. I woke up at four today so I went and slept. As days passed by, gradually I started feeling bit easier and got adjusted with environment. Then I could easily sit for meditation and control mind for about 10-20 minutes. In our room there were eight beds we all people were strangers to each other. We shared room and slept together for ten days and there was special kind of feeling towards each other. We glanced and tried to talk with our eyes then immediately remembered that was not the place to communicate then we turned our heads into other direction. Somebody has rightly said, "Nothing is kept in name".

I heard from many of my friends who have already been here about the magic of it so I was eagerly waiting for it when our body becomes like a piece of cotton. But that day never came. Anyways, when we go deeper in meditation we realise and experience, which we cannot explain in words. We come to know how the people of the world are suffered because of so-called "materialistic world". The deep root of all these is the same. Everybody desires more and more in life, which never fulfils. You desire one thing and as that gets fulfilled another desires comes up and again another. Isn't this the nature of all of us? Actually this is the main cause of our suffering and sorrows. So with the continuous practice of Vipassanna we understand the universal truth of impermanence, suffering and egolesness. As we desire we generate craving for good thing and aversion for not wanted things. So deeper the craving, deeper the aversion, deeper the aversion deeper the affliction. When we become over excited, angry, emotional and desire more we keep all those desires and emotional feelings inside the core our body where all these things keep on knotting and make even bigger and tougher knot very difficult to take that out. We people have given so much importance to the worldly things. We cry in pain and shout in happiness but we don't know the universal law of nature. It keeps on changing and everything is impermanence even our life. So why should one give so much importance to which has bound perish one day? So this Vipassanna technique teaches us to come out of misery and lead a life in proper way spiritually and practically but not religiously.

Three days passed usually. It was our fourth day. And after continuous meditation of three hours the most awaited bell of the day rings at 11:00 for lunch. The lunch is heavy with rice, chapatti, Dal, two items of curries, one more boiled vegetable, pickle and curd. After lunch we could do our activities bathing, washing clothes, sleeping or wandering around. During this leisure time we could see the different types of activities and some even tried to talk with fellow members in the corners where volunteers could not notice. They slept carelessly on the lawn, on stairs and everywhere. Especially foreigners felt much physical pain so we could see them in light exercise. Fourth day was very important day as this was the day when we were going to take an oath of Vipassanna. Now we all were asked to know about the sensation throughout our body from top to bottom and head to feet with alert and attentive mind and calm and eqanimous mind but to be frank it was really difficult to do so. When I used to meditate I passed through all my past activities my plans and my friends. My wonderful memories and the things I did in my whole years and all of a sudden I used to be reminded oh I am here to meditate and again started about the breathing.


On sixth day again there was one more notice; from that day on we had to follow ADDHISTHANNA a different type of meditation for three hours a day. That means we had to be like statue while in meditation, we could not change our posture, could not open eyes so we should have taken strong determination to do so. I was eagerly waiting for some magic and miracle to be happened in my body. One minute used to be like an hour while doing meditation. While sitting for an hour meditation also I saw my watch for more than dozen times. For the person like me who was more materialistic and spiritually nil it was even more difficult to believe all those but also I had come here to experience and explore something new which I could not believe until and unless I personally experience myself. Days passed by but we all were doing meditation and meditation whole days and night. I heard when you go to Vipassanna and do meditation you fill so much joyous that you forget all your miseries and suffering and fly in joy like an aimless bird.


Though first few days were different and exciting with new hope now it was almost seven days passed but nothing strange happened, as I have expected. After having fruits and milk at five o clock in the evening, which was given instead of dinner, I started regretting why I came to this jai to punish myself. Better I could have stayed home to enjoy Indo – Pak cricket series or taken part in NIRNAYAK ANDOLAN. Again in bed after listening the discourse of Acharya SN Goenka at seven in the evening my mentality used to change. As he always repeats progress in Vipassanna solely depends on our own good qualities and personal development and on five factors; earnest efforts, confidence, sincerity, health and wisdom. He further said only the thing you should have is patience and patience then all the desires, craving, aversions, anger, selfish and emotional feelings would come out like a volcano from the inner part of your mind. I did not give up so tried and tried with lots of tolerance and patience. At that time I realised how patient and tolerant are the great saints and yogis whom I used to make a fun just before few days.



Then on eighth day as we were sitting for group meditation in dhamma hall; suddenly, a lady burst into tears and wailed loudly. Later on when I asked our teacher about that incident I came to know that it was the power of meditation and she had realised her mistakes or remembering some event that was very closed to her. Then on that evening I found some change on myself even while in meditation also I felt sensation all over my body from head to feet and sometimes I felt free flow throughout my body as if the electricity has shocked me and the amusement which I got was really amazing but as per technique it was not natural law to excite and crave for it nor to feel sad as this is universal law of impermanence, changing and we must be aware that nothing lasts forever even our body, earth and universe has to vanish one day. If we could understand the three major causes of all unhappiness craving, aversion and ignorance life becomes complete and Vipassanna helps us to eradicate.



Well, I was still undergoing the meditation in search of inner self, Sometimes I used to wonder myself how the person like me who puts on hip hop dress and does not believe in spiritual thing, enjoy the worldly things. And want to reach the summit of materialistic world was being more and more serious about meditation and other spiritual things. My mentality has slightly changed and I realised I have got many things after coming here. It was a ninth day of our course and moreover it was "Metta day" sharing and wishing well for all the beings around the world. Still I could not achieve what I was looking for, that day was last day as next day was the final and our noble silence would have to come to end.

It was ninth day, six in the evening and I was sitting for group meditation. All of a sudden I got jerk in my body there was a flow of current throughout my body, I forgot where I were. My all the cravings, wants, desires, lust, anger, happiness, feelings started to come out breaking the barrier of my mind but it was not so easy as the barriers were very strong and why not those were of from when I was born till now. The mountain of misery was being burst and the fountain of happiness started to come out. I felt where I was on earth or in heaven. My mind became very light like a piece of cotton. And once we experienced Vipassanna we wont be shaken by the worldly things.



And the last and final day of our course was today, after morning meditation our noble silence has come to end. There was buzz everywhere, all wanted to speak and speak, nobody wanted to listen. Everyone were talking though all of us were strangers while coming here now you could see the groups and groups everywhere laughing and laughing and sharing the experiences they have undergone. That was the first time in my life I had seen so much of happiness that too real happiness among so many people. Everyone was behaving with so much love, care and harmony as if they had known you for years and years.

The next morning as we were coming out of Vipassanna centre eight busses were there to receive us, and you may not be aware that the Vipassanna courses all over the world are run solely on a donation basis; and donations are accepted from those only who have taken at least one ten days course in any centre. So everybody can go and learn the great art of living freely. Now I have taken those ten days as the most precious days of my life, which have taught me the great art of living. That taught to lead life in a balanced and calm way. The art that teaches to maximize joy, harmony and love which ultimately leads towards enlightenment. Then as we got in bus I heard two Europeans talking to each other about the experiences they had. One lanky man said cheerfully " I got what I was looking for". Me too, I added silently.


MAY ALL BEINGS BE HAPPY!

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Ive updated it in SAJHA Blog last year, sorry if you happen to read twice

 
Posted on 01-25-08 8:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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of course buddy

i had the same experience that you had. noble silence , meditation  healthy food peaceful environment, naturalness, everything perfect.  i felt like i were in a paradise. Anyway missing that opportunity. I think there are some such  centre in usa too. one in dallas too. Thinking to go again and get PEACE OF MIND. I would better advise everybody to try. If u got no money thats not a problem. U can donate as much as u want.

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At least, I found someone here in Sajha who has been to Vipasana
 
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I am really interested in Bipasyana but never got chance to go through the tough meditation. I want to enjoy it whether it is more pleasure than sex or worse than worst. I thought that  when I get chance or get some 15 days, I would go for it. When i had leisure time, I would like to go back to my home. I wished to be jobless, with mentally tensioned life and tired of  doing positive things so that I would be compelled to lead to Bipasyana. And I am looking forward to joining that pleasure if .........................again.

 
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Amazing,

Thank you for spreading the words of Dhamma in our Sajha.

Bhabatu Sabba Mangalang ! 


 
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When i had leisure time, I would like to go back to my home. I wished to be jobless, with mentally tensioned life and tired of  doing positive things so that I would be compelled to lead to Bipasyana.

Parbatya bro, good to know that you hav desire to be in Vipashana but again, I would guarantee you would never have time if you do not proceed yourself. 10 days is a long time for the busy ppl like us. Just pack your bags and lead to Vipasana, Im sure you will not regret. Of course you might loss few thousand dollars but the GAIN you get is really life changing. You will LOVE it


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Rebel CMX
Thanks a lot for dropping few words, yes I think its our duty to spread the good message to good folks around. how u say? Sharing is Caring

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Sabaiko Satru buddy,
Thanks for posting in this thread and letting others know by inserting website as well.
 
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Vipasanaa is a cult. Always asking for money. They live like hippies in a commune. Their meditation center looks like Rajnish Ashram. Did Buddha pay for his meditation experience ? Its one thing to learn to meditate its another thing having to pay for it. Goenka would not have been able to run such a large organization if it didn't have a few cash cows westerners who are dumb enough to pay for it. Did Buddha pay for his Nirvana ? he he

''The Pleasure of Meditation is 100 times better than of Sex and, pleasure of Sex lats only for a moment'' ha ha ha Sounds like a medicine man selling Love potion. he he

WHAT IS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF SEX ? NOT PLEASURE. ITS TO PROCREATE. ONLY A SIMPLETON WOULD MISTAKE IT SIMPLY FOR PLEASURE. It sure is pleasurable but that is not its main purpose.

 

 


 
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The article is too long for me to read it now since I do not have the patient right now.Anyway I have always been interested in meditation, its just that I don't know how to get started. Any  kind soul want to recommend me  videos or books ?

Many many thank yous !!!

Regards,
Kirat Rai

 
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Hi BathroomCoffee bro,

Thanks for your comment and, I respect your idea and opinion coz everyone is different and ironically we all think we r right. Well, before I write something please be advised Im not a Vipassanna expert, neither a mahaguru Yogi who spends whole day in meditation but Spirituality is my side of life. I try to make my life more colorful and easier to live with spiritual touch. So far, Ive been benefited, it may not be the same case with you. The article I presented above is totally based on my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and everything what I mentioned is that I really meant.

I may not be able to justify your queries but Ive answered what I know. I always try to avoid ARGUMENT especially here in SAJHA coz it leads nowhere. Finally we all end up blaming each other  coz no concrete answer is explored.  Therefore, please do not argue with me, if you have been to Vipasanna we will talk more otherwise I may not be able to give your right answer.....

Live and Let live

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Vipasanaa is a cult. Always asking for money.

Always asking for money?? who asks for it? Were you asked money to be there? or you paid for the food you had over there? or You paid for sleeping like in hotel bill?


They live like hippies in a commune. Their meditation center looks like Rajnish Ashram.

I think Rajnish Ashram is better than Vipasanaa, if we compare luxuries and  facilities. But I would surely say people live better than hippies in Vipasanna.

Did Buddha pay for his meditation experience ?

He paid the biggest price for it, left whole family, wonderful wife, royal and luxurious life and even the most precious thing the newly born baby, what could u ask more than that. Can u pay even your own 10 days for it?


Its one thing to learn to meditate its another thing having to pay for it.

Paying for it? where did u have to pay for it? I  learned all in free.

Goenka would not have been able to run such a large organization if it didn't have a few cash cows westerners who are dumb enough to pay for it.

Do u know Goenka was one of the most successful business tycoons of Myanmar? He left all his business just for it, thats not the point of discussion here. But let me remind you again, noone is forced to pay for it..if you donate your hard earned 1 cent, they will not accept that. I think you have known the fact. Only the people who have been benefited from there can donate something and thats all voluntary.


Did Buddha pay for his Nirvana ? he he

The price does not always come in economic tag. haha



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i_nepali bro, how u doin?, well if you are really interested in mediataion, I would suggest to go through some basic books, or some clips of J Krishnamurthy, (Easily available in YouTube), and ' The Power of Now' by Ekhart Tole (German Writer) is the one which might be really helpful for you. Otherwise, read one interesting novel  that is spiritual but written in very Romantic style 'I Kissed Dating Goodbye' by Joshua Harris, or 'Ageless Body, Timeless Mind' by Deepak Chopra. These books are donot talk about meditation but certainly they will open first layer of your mind that gradually leads to MEDITATION.

Good Luck and hope you will find time to read the loooooooooong article


 
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once again, I was reffering only I KISSED DATING GOODBYE as a romantic spiritual novel, not the one by Deepak Chopra

 
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Amazing Bro, thank you for your direction.

 
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Hey Amazing Bro how u doing? Take warm, dominate cold.

Thanks! you remind me again The Vipasyana, this is one which I proudly said that I have completed first 10 days course successfully . I am looking for next opportunities for next 10 days and Satipatthana Sutta course. Often people asked about the money, how much they charged, how they are running etc. In my opinion this course is absolutely costless. You will get so much than money or whatever you will pay. If you want you can pay only NRS1.00 or just 10Cents for 10 days. Its amazing if you stay for 10 days and follows the rules, you will no longer ask the same questions about money, I am pretty much sure that you will be ready to pay as much as you have. This is true which I have experienced about 4 years ago.
If anybody gotta chance to join don't miss it. Experience the new ways of living life by self observation.



 
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Amazing,"Always asking for money?? who asks for it? Were you asked money to be there? or you paid for the food you had over there? or You paid for sleeping like in hotel bill?"

There were a lotta people in Nepal that wanted to participate in their SO CALLED RETREAT but simple got denied saying NO MONEY NO MEDITATION. And the same thing here in Western MA. They were asking for donation even before I got anything from them. They told me I can barter by working for them(like a hippy). he he

 

Amazing,"He paid the biggest price for it, left whole family, wonderful wife, royal and luxurious life and even the most precious thing the newly born baby, what could u ask more than that. Can u pay even your own 10 days for it?"

But what they are asking is Mulaaa not a sacrifice.

 

Well you were lucky to learn it for free. But you veiw and my veiw about Goenka and his organization is totally the opposite. I saw it with my own eyes in NEPAL.

 

Yeah Price does not always come in economic value but with out that economic value Vipasanaa won't let you in on their secret password to happiness. he he


 

 


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