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Posted on 02-03-09 4:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I feel sorry to see such a words, feel guilty meself of you guys ill habit. Try to respect someone's Spirituality.


 
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Ms Bimala,


                    FOR UR KIND INFORMATION, THERE IS NOTHING CALLED SPIRITUALITY, MAGIC AND HEPNOTIZATION BUT JUST AN ILLUSION. WHAT WE BELIEVE IS OBSERVATION, EXPERIMENT AND CRITICAL THINKING MS BIMALA. THIS IS 21ST CENTURY AND WE NEPALESE ARE IN 15TH CENTURY.


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 
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haina tyo muji dadera marena bhaneko .........pagaal jasto cha yaar
 
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There are things that cannot be explained by today's science. Today's science has not developed that far yet.


So things like spirituality, paranormal are yet to be justified. But I believe they exist. And in fact everybody believes it. Its just that they are afraid to accept that they believe. For example, many people in this thread are also afraid to believe.


 
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What ever it is its amazing n i respect his power n belief...

 
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Spiritual??????
What is so spiritual in this video?

From what I can see
1. He appears to be farting over the fire- butt naked.
2. Then after a while he seems to be playing with his weener- butt naked
3. Some guy taking the video saying "Chup, Chup"

What spiritual connection are we talking here?  Am I missing something here? Is it that his butt did not catch fire when he farted because of his super power?


 
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kasto kukkurtimiharu, if you guys don't know/understand him don't judge him based on just what you see in this video. Thuikka bajjyaharu.
 
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sojhonepali,


You said


things like spirituality, paranormal are yet to be justified


Can you give me some examples of paranormal?


 
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Not everyone sees things in same way..diferent opinions..different views..but u guys plz try to have respect for the things that others belive in..to them its their spirituality.You might be atheist or numb abt spiritual healings and beliefs, but there are millions others who think the other way..peace.


 
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I don't know what this kid trying to do but give some respect to him guys , poor thing trying to warm him up don't you see?? kukur haru kohi napayera bichara yesto bacha ko pachi lagna thale.. leave him alone, sale haru.. timiharu 1hr pani eklai padmasan meditation garera basna sakchau?? bhagwan namane pani usko tyo tyag ko kadar gara usko dhairyata ko kadar gara.. ani when you are in a deathbed and begging for your life you would know what spiritual power is... those guys who took this video should be burn in hell... tiniharuko kahile pragiti nahos..
 
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यो दुनियाँमा आजसम्म जजसले परासामान्य (paranaronal) शक्तिको दावी र प्रदर्शन गरेका छन् त्यो भ्रम र फट्याँई सिवाय केही होईन भन्ने कुरा यो जगत संचालन गर्ने प्राकृतिक नियमहरुको संगति (consistency) बाट स्पष्टै हुन्छ ।


 


तर पनि यस्तो दावी यो संसारमा घण्टैपिच्छे भने जस्तो कसै न कसैले संसारको कुनै न कुनै कुनामा गरिरहेका गरिरहेकै छन् ।


 


ए बाबा विधाता यस्तो कुरा संभव हुने कुनै आधारै छैन, संभव हुने कुरै छैन भनेर सम्झाउदा सम्झाउदा वाक्क ब्याक्क दिक्क भएर एकजना क्यानेडाली जादुगर, James Randi, ले दश लाख डलरको परासामान्य च्यालेञ्ज राखिदिएका थिए ।


 


परासामान्य शक्ति देखाओ, दश लाख डलर लिएर जाओ । यहि हो च्यालेञ्ज ।


 


यो च्यालेञ्जलाई कतिजना परासामान्य चमत्कारीहरुले स्वीकार गरेर दश लाख डलर जितेर गए अहिलेसम्म, थाहा छ ?


 


सुन्ना, जिरो, नादा !!


 


James Randi Foundation को दश लाख डलरको च्यालेञ्ज पोहोर discontinue गरियो । तर कोही दावी गर्न आए, पुन: व्यवस्था गर्न सकिन्छ ।


 


त्यो बाहेक अन्य संघसंस्थाहरु पनि छन् यस्तो पुरस्कार हाँक राख्‍ने:


 



  • Association for Skeptical Enquiry is offering a £13,000 prize.

  • Australian Skeptics offers AUD $100,000 for proof of psychic or paranormal powers.

  • Abraham Kovoor's challenge, an award of Rs. 100,000 for proof of supernatural or miraclous powers.

  • The Independent Investigations Group offers $50,000 to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.

  • Indian Skeptic 100,000 Paranormal Challenge Indian Rupees 100,000 ($2,500). Sponsored by Basava Premanand.

  • Prabir Ghosh of India is offering $50,000.

  • Tampa Bay Skeptics $1,000 Challenge US $1,000.

  • North Texas Skeptics Paranormal Challenge US $12,000.

  • The late Philip J. Klass offered US $10,000 for proof of an extraterrestrial visit to the Earth.

  • After investigating psychic phenomena in 1922, Scientific American made two US $2,500 offers: (1) for the first authentic spirit photograph made under test conditions, and (2) for the first psychic to produce a "visible psychic manifestation." (Christopher 1975:180).

  • The Swedish Humanist Association is offering a prize of SEK 100,000 that will be awarded to anyone who can demonstrate beyond doubt that they possess a paranormal or supernatural talent that cannot be explained by conventional science.

 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation#The_One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge



 


 


Nepe


 


 


 


 
Posted on 02-04-09 8:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wow, That's Funny (WTF) !

 
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Simple, He lost his clothes and marbles. and it is pretty fcking cold.
Somebody give him some clothes and his marbles back.


 
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" Burning Monk - The Self-Immolation

On
June 11, 1963, Thich Quang Duc, a Buddhist monk from the Linh-Mu Pagoda
in Hue, Vietnam, burned himself to death at a busy intersection in
downtown Saigon, Vietnam.. Eye witness accounts state that Thich Quang
Duc and at least two fellow monks arrived at the intersection by car,
Thich Quang Duc got out of the car, assumed the traditional lotus
position and the accompanying monks helped him pour gasoline over
himself. He ignited the gasoline by lighting a match and burned to
death in a matter of minutes. David Halberstam, a reporter for the New
York Times covering the war in Vietnam, gave the following account: I
was to see that sight again, but once was enough. Flames were coming
from a human being; his body was slowly withering and shriveling up,
his head blackening and charring. In the air was the smell of burning
human flesh; human beings burn surprisingly quickly. Behind me I could
hear the sobbing of the Vietnamese who were now gathering. I was too
shocked to cry, too confused to take notes or ask questions, too
bewildered to even think…. As he burned he never moved a muscle, never
uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing
people around him.

Thich Quang Duc had prepared himself for his
self-immolation through several weeks of meditation and had explained
his motivation in letters to members of his Buddhist community as well
as to the government of South Vietnam in the weeks prior to his
self-immolation. In these letters he described his desire to bring
attention to the repressive policies of the Catholic Diem regime that
controlled the South Vietnamese government at the time. Prior to the
self-immolation, the South Vietnamese Buddhists had made the following
requests to the Diem regime, asking it to: Lift its ban on flying the
traditional Buddhist flag; Grant Buddhism the same rights as
Catholicism; Stop detaining Buddhists; Give Buddhist monks and nuns the
right to practice and spread their religion; and Pay fair compensations
to the victim's families and punish those responsible for their deaths.

When
these requests were not addressed by the Deim regime, Thich Quang Duc
carried out his self-immolation. Following his death, Thich Quang Duc
was cremated and legend has it that his heart would not burn. As a
result, his heart is considered Holy and is in the custody of the
Reserve Bank of Vietnam. "
 

Similar situation likely here if  not fraud.  There was a pbs documentary about Tibetan monks surviving in sub zero temp. for long period without any proper clothes. May be body mind control capacity but still defies the common scientific knowledge known to mankind hence unknown.


 
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dhhirajojha MU-JI ko chamatkar....What is in video is non of anyone's business, it's his life and he haven't harm anybody so as Poon-Hill said show some respect 


....and Mr/Ms Rookie1 claiming that there is nothing called
spirituality in 21st century, haven't seen the world yet......No
Religion bhaneko bhaye kinda make sense.....no spritituality....so that
means Buddha was all fake....ya Lets throw you in that fire and do all
your
OBSERVATION, EXPERIMENT AND CRITICAL THINKING....
 
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Sapai le ek arka ko view lai respect garum na.  Tyaso gare Kaso hola.


 
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>There was a pbs documentary about Tibetan monks


>surviving in sub zero temp. for long period without


>any proper clothes. May be body mind control capacity


>but still defies the common scientific knowledge known


>to mankind hence unknown.


 


Mr. Truth,


 


तिब्बतका रैथाने भिक्षुले होईन कुनै गर्मी मुलुकवासी भिक्षुले कुनै acclimatization बिना नै स्वाट्ट सब-जिरो ठण्डी असामान्य समयसम्म खपे भने (गैर भिक्षु control को तुलनामा, भनम् न) भने चाही केही चाखलाग्दो कुरा हुनेछ त्यो । नत्र भने हाम्रा शेर्पाहरुकै कुरा गरम् न, उनीहरुको metabolic economy कुइरेहरुको भन्दा धेरै छ ।


 


एउटा परीक्षण:


Himalayan porter's specialization: metabolic power, economy, efficiency and skill


http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1635507


 


जहाँसम्म mind power को कुरा छ मेरो सामान्य impression र अनुमान के छ भने non-mind जगतमा त्यसको प्रभाव Physical laws ले व्याख्या गर्न नसक्ने हदको चमत्कारिक हुन संभव छैन । Mind कै दुनियाँमा हो भने mind को power स्वाभाविक हो, अवश्य छ । तर त्यो यहाँ विषय होईन ।


 


Mind power द्वारा Physical दुनियाँमा चमत्कार देखाउन सक्नेहरुको लागि लाखौं डलर, पाउण्ड, रुपयाँ र क्रोनरको पुरस्कार राशी प्रतिक्षारत छन् भन्ने कुरा त भनिहालें ।


 


 Nepe


 
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Materialists believe in Gyanendriya ( eye, ear, nose, skin, tongue) and mind is controlled by Gyanendriya.
Spiritualists believe beyond the power of Gyanendriya

I respect Bomjan for his life without food, which is impossible and even unbelievable. It's not like Sahi Baba (Jadu predominant) and Rajnish (Mesmerism- induce belief and blind confidency)

After the collapse of Soviet Union in 90s, they started to rebuild their destroyed 2500 churches on the slogan of perestroika (reconstruction) and glastnost (transparency).

This is just a fine example of the fact that even a SUPERPOWER have no life within materialism.
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nepe,

here is the video from history channel but would like to present pbs doc. if time persist.




besides i'm not really talking about extra bestowed people like sherpas or bariyas, here i was talking about the power of meditation and mind and body power that defies the common scientific knowledge through it that anybody can acheive it not just himalayan dwelling people.  Whether you consider meditation scientific or not , it's your problem but miracle do happend although i would also like to define it within the science and natural laws after all  being a avid sceince reader and believer.  After one russian historian  revelation in 1970s  that Jesus actually learned so called miracle through buddhist monastry, it was  a interesting news and helped people to evalutate Jesus in more humananistic level which i consider was more helpful to christianity than harmful . You said that paranormal as a non-existed phenomenon which i say   wrong.  I would rather like to say , paranormal phenomenons have happend, unexplained, but to initiate it? that's the problem since  if anybody figures out it, laws of nature would defined it(meaning lab proof). Believe it or not these paranormal or so called psychic communication ability has been explained through quantum physics which exist right now in theory only yet to be complete  but who knows what future will tell ( and it will lead to longer discussion if you want to proceed) . So to these messiah of scientific communities who offers rewards after rewards, I have nothing against them except the fact that science can not explain everything because it is not complete yet. Until then, these so called miracle will happend & keep winning the hand , keep mesmerizing people. when woman suddenly wakes up after 20 yrs. ( which really happend if want proof will be provided) of vegetate state, do you think science knows everything? so i would like to request these messiahs to hold their gun to claim that they can explain everything through known science although i admire their effort to save people from daily new born highway robberies. I  would put forward paranormal videos ( which i consider highly reliable than any other source) if time allows . in between pardon my english though it's a mess....


 
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Mr Truth


 


Those skeptics are not saying anything. Their mouths are closed. Because they have put their money where their mouths were.


 


Now it’s the turn of the paranormal practitioners and their believers. The burden of the proof is on them !


 


As for the scientific support for the paranormal phenomenon, you certainly are talking about pseudoscience and not about science.


 


Here is a useful article on science vs. pseudoscience.


 


 


How to draw boundaries between science and pseudoscience


By Michael Shermer


When lecturing on science and pseudoscience at colleges and universities, I am inevitably asked, after


challenging common beliefs held by many students, "Why should we believe you?" My answer: "You


shouldn't."


I then explain that we need to check things out for ourselves and, short of that, at least to ask basic


questions that get to the heart of the validity of any claim. This is what I call baloney detection, in


deference to Carl Sagan, who coined the phrase "Baloney Detection Kit." To detect baloney--that is, to


help discriminate between science and pseudoscience--I suggest 10 questions to ask when


encountering any claim.


1. How reliable is the source of the claim?


Pseudoscientists often appear quite reliable, but when examined closely, the facts and figures they cite


are distorted, taken out of context or occasionally even fabricated. Of course, everyone makes some


mistakes. And as historian of science Daniel Kevles showed so effectively in his book The Baltimore


Affair, it can be hard to detect a fraudulent signal within the background noise of sloppiness that is a


normal part of the scientific process. The question is, Do the data and interpretations show signs of


intentional distortion? When an independent committee established to investigate potential fraud


scrutinized a set of research notes in Nobel laureate David Baltimore's laboratory, it revealed a


surprising number of mistakes. Baltimore was exonerated because his lab's mistakes were random and


nondirectional.


2. Does this source often make similar claims?


Pseudoscientists have a habit of going well beyond the facts. Flood geologists (creationists who believe


that Noah's flood can account for many of the earth's geologic formations) consistently make


outrageous claims that bear no relation to geological science. Of course, some great thinkers do


frequently go beyond the data in their creative speculations. Thomas Gold of Cornell University is


notorious for his radical ideas, but he has been right often enough that other scientists listen to what


he has to say. Gold proposes, for example, that oil is not a fossil fuel at all but the by-product of a


deep, hot biosphere (microorganisms living at unexpected depths within the crust). Hardly any earth


scientists with whom I have spoken think Gold is right, yet they do not consider him a crank. Watch


out for a pattern of fringe thinking that consistently ignores or distorts data.


3. Have the claims been verified by another source?


Typically pseudoscientists make statements that are unverified or verified only by a source within their


own belief circle. We must ask, Who is checking the claims, and even who is checking the checkers?


The biggest problem with the cold fusion debacle, for instance, was not that Stanley Pons and Martin


Fleischman were wrong. It was that they announced their spectacular discovery at a press conference


before other laboratories verified it. Worse, when cold fusion was not replicated, they continued to


cling to their claim. Outside verification is crucial to good science.


4. How does the claim fit with what we know about how the world works?


An extraordinary claim must be placed into a larger context to see how it fits. When people claim that


the Egyptian pyramids and the Sphinx were built more than 10,000 years ago by an unknown,


advanced race, they are not presenting any context for that earlier civilization. Where are the rest of


the artifacts of those people? Where are their works of art, their weapons, their clothing, their tools,


their trash? Archaeology simply does not operate this way.


5. Has anyone gone out of the way to disprove the claim, or has only supportive evidence


been sought?


This is the confirmation bias, or the tendency to seek confirmatory evidence and to reject or ignore


disconfirmatory evidence. The confirmation bias is powerful, pervasive and almost impossible for any


of us to avoid. It is why the methods of science that emphasize checking and rechecking, verification


and replication, and especially attempts to falsify a claim, are so critical.


West Island School – TOK – SJT Pseudoscience - 5 – Bias & Other Issues


6. Does the preponderance of evidence point to the claimant's conclusion or to a different


one?


The theory of evolution, for example, is proved through a convergence of evidence from a number of


independent lines of inquiry. No one fossil, no one piece of biological or paleontological evidence has


"evolution" written on it; instead tens of thousands of evidentiary bits add up to a story of the


evolution of life. Creationists conveniently ignore this confluence, focusing instead on trivial anomalies


or currently unexplained phenomena in the history of life.


7. Is the claimant employing the accepted rules of reason and tools of research, or have


these been abandoned in favor of others that lead to the desired conclusion?


A clear distinction can be made between SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) scientists and


UFOlogists. SETI scientists begin with the null hypothesis that ETIs do not exist and that they must


provide concrete evidence before making the extraordinary claim that we are not alone in the


universe. UFOlogists begin with the positive hypothesis that ETIs exist and have visited us, then


employ questionable research techniques to support that belief, such as hypnotic regression


(revelations of abduction experiences), anecdotal reasoning (countless stories of UFO sightings),


conspiratorial thinking (governmental cover-ups of alien encounters), low-quality visual evidence


(blurry photographs and grainy videos), and anomalistic thinking (atmospheric anomalies and visual


misperceptions by eyewitnesses).


8. Is the claimant providing an explanation for the observed phenomena or merely denying


the existing explanation?


This is a classic debate strategy--criticize your opponent and never affirm what you believe to avoid


criticism. It is next to impossible to get creationists to offer an explanation for life (other than "God did


it"). Intelligent Design (ID) creationists have done no better, picking away at weaknesses in scientific


explanations for difficult problems and offering in their stead "ID did it." This stratagem is


unacceptable in science.


9. If the claimant proffers a new explanation, does it account for as many phenomena as the


old explanation did?


Many HIV/AIDS skeptics argue that lifestyle causes AIDS. Yet their alternative theory does not explain


nearly as much of the data as the HIV theory does. To make their argument, they must ignore the


diverse evidence in support of HIV as the causal vector in AIDS while ignoring the significant


correlation between the rise in AIDS among hemophiliacs shortly after HIV was inadvertently


introduced into the blood supply.


10. Do the claimant's personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?


All scientists hold social, political and ideological beliefs that could potentially slant their interpretations


of the data, but how do those biases and beliefs affect their research in practice? Usually during the


peer-review system, such biases and beliefs are rooted out, or the paper or book is rejected.


Clearly, there are no foolproof methods of detecting baloney or drawing the boundary between science


and pseudoscience. Yet there is a solution: science deals in fuzzy fractions of certainties and


uncertainties, where evolution and big bang cosmology may be assigned a 0.9 probability of being


true, and creationism and UFOs a 0.1 probability of being true. In between are borderland claims: we


might assign superstring theory a 0.7 and cryonics a 0.2. In all cases, we remain open-minded and


flexible, willing to reconsider our assessments as new evidence arises. This is, undeniably, what makes


science so fleeting and frustrating to many people; it is, at the same time, what makes science the


most glorious product of the human mind.


West Island School – TOK – SJT Pseudoscience - 5 – Bias & Other Issues


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