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Posted on 12-13-11 10:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Please oppose HR 3012 bill

Daju Bhai and didi bahini haru ani pyara sathi mitra bandhu haru,

you must have heard about H.R. 3012 bill by now. This bill is an ammendment to current Greencard process. This ammendment heavily favors Indian and Chinese applicants and considerably slows down Green card process for the applicants from the rest of the world. It is currently on hold in the senate.

Here is the summary on the bill:

Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 - Amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to: (1) eliminate the per country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, and (2) increase the per country numerical limitation for family based immigrants from 7% to 15% of the total number of family-sponsored visas.

Sets forth the following transition period for employment-based second and third preference (EB-2 and EB-3) immigrant visas: (1) for FY2012, 15% of such visas allotted to natives of countries other than the two countries with the largest aggregate numbers of natives obtaining such visas in FY2010; (2) for FY2013, 10% of such visas allotted in each category to natives of countries other than the two with the largest aggregate numbers of natives obtaining such visas in FY2011; and (3) for FY2014, 10% of such visas allotted in each category to natives of countries other than the two with the largest aggregate numbers of natives obtaining such visas in FY2012


What it means to us:

If this bill is passed, our green card process will be further delayed by the spillover applicants from India and China. The additional delay is estimated anywhere from 2 to 4 years on top of the already delayed process. This is not fair because this bill is targeted to expedite applicants from Indian and Chinese nationality only. Rest of the 200 other countries will have to suffer further delay.

So my friends, brothers and sisters, I strongly urge you to oppose this bill and prevent it from passing it on the Senate. There are two ways you can help:

1. The most effective way is to call your Senator office of your state and file your petition.  It is very simple to do it. The following is the website to find the contact number for the senator for your state. You just have to call them and tell them why you want to oppose the HR3012 bill.
http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

2. Another way is to go to the following website and file a petition against the bill.
http://www.petition2congress.com/5677/oppose-hr-3012-its-companions-1857/

Thanks again for your support.

Please feel free to email me if you have any questions.


 
Posted on 12-13-11 10:43 PM     [Snapshot: 68]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Nepali ppl are filing asylum right and left and we have DV lotteries, plus we can go get married bhutanis too...god created all humans to his image why should indians or chinese be discriminated just because lots of talents come from their countries. how would we feel if we were  the number 1 supplier of talent in the usa and instead of getting rewarded Nepalis would have to wait 15 years for gc.
I think when it comes to employment immigration , 1st thing should be to authenticate the real eligilibity of the  petition. Are there really such jobs in USa where American citizen or perm residents are not found so the company had to file for labor? and more than anything there should be a solid mechanism to check the validy of job boasting. lots of IT folks who make 18 bucks an hour after calculation the factors such as benz period and moving from one state to another but they file under eb2 as IT executives. 
let there be free competion and genunie one , not based on color , creed or country origin but based on real talent and real need.
 
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Yes I am a nepali and yes my employer has filed for my Green card. Is this bill going to hurt when I get my GC? Of course. But is it the right thing to do? Should you be discriminated and put in the backlog just because you were born in the 'wrong' country? Is it really fair for Indians to wait 10 years for their GC while others get it in a few years? Absolutely not.

When inequality isn't in our favor we scream of democracy but when it helps us should we promote it? I think each of us is better than that :)

 
Posted on 12-13-11 11:32 PM     [Snapshot: 143]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 If you talk about fairness . Is it fair to have Indain and Chinease to get 90% of the visa ? They have put country cap in the law  to have diverse population.  If you are saying there shouldn't be any law based on country of origin, then how about speical visa category  for Canadian and Australian, may be those visa laws needs to be amended to make more visa available for so called "High Skilled " Indian and Chinease. If  the the bill was really about to reatain high skilled employee, the changes should favor  people  with skill  and advance degree. May be they should have added clause like priority for people with Masters in STEM or pepole with more than x years of expericne in related field. 

This bill is same as Irish people demanding special visa category or using E3 visa. They are adding this word "Fairness" to misled people. 



 
Posted on 12-14-11 12:18 AM     [Snapshot: 274]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 is this bill stating anywhere that 90% of the visa are alloted for Indians and chinese and 10% for the rest of the world? people seem to talk about "diversity" and "fairness" but what about equal treament of talents. just because an employee is holding an indian passport he has to wait 15 years to be a pr and another 10 years to bring his mother over and a Nepali or a Row(rest  of the world) should deserve an eb2  withing a yearJUSSSSt  becauase they are not indian or chinese?  Aus and Canada has special treaties with US. Americans enjoy the same privillage when they go to their countries for work/study etc.. US finds no interest with Nepal or even india or china to have such relations and that is that. for diversity there is diversity visa.. 
 
Posted on 12-14-11 8:56 AM     [Snapshot: 534]     Reply [Subscribe]
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This is really unfair for the rest of the world. Please oppose this bill.
 
Posted on 12-14-11 9:19 AM     [Snapshot: 581]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Don't change the rule in the middle of the game.if I had known it takes 15 yrs then I would have never applied for gc. Indians and chinese knew what they are geting into.don't make the rule retroactively effective.
 
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Please oppose the bill . Don't be so smart talking about Fairness this is not fare to rest of the world so lets oppose.

 
Posted on 12-14-11 11:15 AM     [Snapshot: 816]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Guys, new bill is introduced today  S.1983 on immigration.
 
Posted on 12-14-11 12:43 PM     [Snapshot: 932]     Reply [Subscribe]
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kill the bill 3012..
      I fully disagree to this bill... . if this bill is passed , nepalese will have a hard time getting a employement based green card. Eb3 wait period will further increase by 5-6 years and EB2 wait period will simultaneously increased. Please take your time... and read the bill properly and oppose... please write to your senators and ask them to oppose too.
   P.s -- whoever said you cannot send your letters to senators ...in open forum.. as it will hamper your green card process is bullshit. tHIS IS AMERICA... you wont be prosecuted based on your personal opinion about the bill. lol.. So plz oppose this bill. At least if we oppose ... even if this passes it will pass with some added amendments...otherwise ..nepalese dreams of greencard will be a distant dream..

 
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there's one in facebook... kill the bill 3012... just search it and like it and add your comments.
     thanks.
 

 
Posted on 12-14-11 9:18 PM     [Snapshot: 1334]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Just my 2 cents...

If things were in my control, I would disqualify this bill because it poses an unfair disadvantage to people not from China or India, people who have already applied. One may argue that Indians and Chinese have been waiting in line for what seems like ever, but what about the people who have been waiting patiently in line for 3 years to get their green card only to find out that it's going to take them an additional 4 years. And they don't have the option to get their H1b renewed again. How fair is it to that person? Besides, remember that a lot of Indians do go through Indian consultancies, so I have no sympathy for them. Yes, there are legits, but sorry rep has been tarnished already.  I think the retroactive comment is a good one, the people who have already applied need to be grandfathered into the old policy, a law isn't fair if it poses an undue advantage to another party.

2 departments within the same company don't share cost centers even when one of them has a deficient budget.

I also don't think that this is discrimination based on nationality, I think that it's based on the size of the country and population of people who have already migrated to the US. A good example of discrimination based on nationality or race is the Arizona immigration law where the cops can ID you based on the color of your skin. Also, just because lots of neps are filing for asylum or have migrated to the US based on DV is a faulty argument to make, why should students who have done it the "right" way all along have to suffer because of them AND if you use this argument, I can easily say, well what about the people who have migrated from CHN and IND ages ago, count the generations and I wouldn't be surprised if you found 4 generations of CHN. The US never occupied CHN or IND. I have yet to find a 3rd generation nep here in the US.

But I have to remind myself, this is hardly my country and even if it were, I would hardly have a say. Suck it up.
Last edited: 14-Dec-11 09:18 PM

 


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