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 BUSH actually VETO SOMETHING
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Posted on 07-20-06 10:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- After waiting 51/2 years to make good on a veto threat, President Bush used his first to underscore his politically risky stand against federal funding for the embryonic stem cell research that most Americans support.

Some political strategists say Bush's high-profile stance on such an intensely emotional issue could hurt the party's congressional candidates in November in heartland places like Missouri.

"This bill would support the taking of innocent human life in the hope of finding medical benefits for others," Bush said after rejecting calls that he change his policy. "It crosses a moral boundary that our decent society needs to respect."

The veto puts some Republicans in the uncomfortable position of having to chose between the wishes of their conservative backers who consider embryonic stem cells to be early human life and those in greater numbers who want to use the cells for research that could one day save lives. (View poll data that suggest most Americans support expanded research)

"I think history will look very unkindly on this veto," said Rep. Chris Shays, a moderate Connecticut Republican who helped pass the legislation. "I believe the president is very sincere in vetoing this bill, but I think that he's been captured by his own ideology and taking his ideology to an extreme."

"I think it will hurt" the party in November, said Rep. Joe Pitts, R-Pennsylvania, who supported the veto. But he said Bush and Republicans who were allied with him were acting on moral principle and not politics. "I'm willing to roll the dice on that."

In vetoing the bill Bush made good on a promise he made in 2001 to limit federally funded embryonic research to the stem cell lines that had been created by the time.
Rallying conservatives

Republicans working to maintain majorities in Congress say stem cells will not be the biggest issue on voters' minds in November and that the economy, war and terrorism will be more important. However, Democrats warned that voters would not forget Bush's veto.

"Everyone knows someone who needs this bill," said Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, the chairman of the Democratic senatorial committee. "We don't have to do much work on this bill. It'll speak for itself."

There could be a silver lining for Republicans. The president's opposition to embryonic stem cell research is a popular move among his most conservative supporters -- the same bloc that has been angry over Bush's immigration policies.

Richard A. Viguerie, a conservative direct-mail fundraiser, said Bush is in "serious trouble" with his base.

"If he were not to veto this legislation, you could see the administration come unraveled very quickly," Viguerie said. "It would really wreak havoc with his ability to govern with the conservative base there."

The hope among Republican strategists is that the stem cell veto will reinvigorate conservatives to get to the polls in the midterm, when turnout is traditionally lower.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee plans to fund ads on the issue in the fall as Democrats work to take control of the House with the November elections. Leading targets could be Republicans who are running in suburban districts, such as Peter Roskam near Chicago and Mike Fitzpatrick of the Philadelphia area.
Impact in Missouri

Strategists on both sides say the debate could have the biggest impact on the Senate race in Missouri, where a measure protecting embryonic stem cell research is expected to be on the ballot.

Democrats chose their candidate in Missouri, State Auditor Claire McCaskill, to deliver last weekend's national radio address touting the potential lifesaving cures of the research. Incumbent Republican Sen. Jim Talent struggled over his position for months before announcing in May that he would oppose the ballot measure.

Talent's position put him on the side of anti-abortion and religious groups but against the state's biggest business and medical groups, which have lined up behind the initiative. The state's Republican governor supports it, as does former Sen. John Danforth, an Episcopal priest who lost a brother to Lou Gehrig's disease and has taped ads touting the measure.

"I think a lot of people are going to vote on this issue," Danforth said. He bristled at the suggestion that it could motivate conservatives and help the party.

"I served in elected office as a Republican for 26 years," he said. "Is somebody telling me I don't count? My brother doesn't count? What counts is that religious theory that says what takes place in a lab dish takes precedent over my brother?"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/20/stemcells.veto.ap/index.html

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scientists are so close to finding cure for deadly diseases and this could really help us in the future i m just shocked on how ignorant he is
 
Posted on 07-20-06 10:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i am against bush when he vetoed the stem cell research.. he talked about ethics.. i just don't understand when lots of frozen embroy need to be discarded without using it then what's the fuss of using for research when it can be using for curing disease...
 
Posted on 07-20-06 10:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Do you know ss74k bush himself is cloned..hehehe
his brain has been cloned with the brain of donkey
his face with the monkey..:):)
 
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How many does the each president get? I was hoping that he would veto on immigration reforms.
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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UNlimited ..Unlimited brainlessness..
 
WeponofMassSeduction
Posted on 07-20-06 11:05 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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are u calling me brainless ImI?
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hahahaahahaa
who are we talking about in this thread...?
hhahaha
anyways do you think so:P:P
 
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Posted on 07-20-06 11:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Correct me if im wrong but i thought one president could only veto once per his term.
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:32 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sidster,
I really don't think that is correct because President vetos bills and as there can be number of bills .. he can opt to veto any ..but he normally should not interfer with the proceedings of the congress and senate.The bill are passed by congress then goes to senate..usually if it is important one.

About the comment of your in another thread commies are to tested..Wanna take chance.people are tasting them right now..they are really sour..:)
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i hope they tasted the right part.... i head the tail part is sour....he he
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey and one more thing congress and senate can override his veto but with 2/3 majority.
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:39 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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yea i know that part, i just wasnt sure how many veto a president could use. But ima hit the sack now...goodnite to y'll
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It is morally wrong to expect anything good from Bush...hehe
 
Posted on 07-20-06 11:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 07-20-06 11:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bush should be BRUSHED.
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:11 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ImI,
Maybe bush doesn't want same mistake to happen again.

Maybe he thinks that the country can't cope with another bush......
 


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