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 So we didn't land on the monn..hun??????
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Posted on 10-18-05 7:06 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Did we land on the moon?

We take for granted when we hear Neil Armstrong saying "One small step for men, one giant

leap for menkind". But did he step on the moon or he really steped in a giant recording studio in

Aria 51. Some say men landing on the moon was a giant hoax, the most expansive movie ever

made. Why? With a simple search on google you can discover proof of this hoax.
1. American flag flaping on the moon which everybody knows has no atmosfere.
2. Photos made by the astronauts in (NASA says) different locations seem identical.
3. Shadows in the same photos suggest 2 different light sources, but on the moon the sun is the

only light source.
4. No dust present on the moon lander.
5. If you double the speed of the tape with the astronauts walking on the moon, you will see

that they seem to run.
What I have told you are not the only proofs, only the most important one. I suggest you

watch the documentary made by an american tv channel (NBC not sure thought). After seeing

that documentary I am wondering if we really landed on the moon...

 
Posted on 10-18-05 9:09 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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U got some point though, where is the documentry ??

 
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Izen,
I wonder too and I have heard the arguments that you have provided above from other people also. These arguments really make sense but I still cannot buy the fact that Neil Armstrong did not land on the moon. Did America lied to the entire world and is successful in doing so despite of the brilliant scientists (critics) in and out of the country. I doubt it.
 
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Damn! iZen , Never thought that way... you might be true...
 
Posted on 10-18-05 9:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Pundit:You can get the documentry.Probably from the NBC website.

Nepalover:Not all the scientific achievement were a hoax.But the space race in particular is suspicious especially about the lunar landing especially after Russians had Yuri Gagrin circling orbit got Americans worried about their lagging behind in the space-race.And personally I wonder why so little lunar exploration after the seventies.Well,last but not least you know how good americans are about brain washing mechanisms.And I wonder???????????????
 
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iZen you must be watching "THE CONSPIRACY THEORY:LUNAR LANDING"

i know there are some valid points in this, but one i don't agree with is
1. American flag flaping on the moon which everybody knows has no atmosfere.

Thats right, MOON has no atmosphere, means NO air, means NO FRICTION.
Here in earth, if something flaps, it would stop quicly because the of the wind and drag on the flag.

whereas, when you are standing on moon, with flag, and you shake it once, accidentally or on purpose, since there is no air, and friction, it will not stop the flaps. NO FRICTION.
Just wanted to clear that out.
 
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people like conspiracy theories than real ones...cant help it :)
 
Posted on 10-18-05 11:25 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I have heard the "conspiracy theory" before it might be just like where all the lost shocks are being collected from the washer/dryer to tihuhua (?)...

Regarding the two light sources, one from the sun and another one from the space ship (?) maybe. It is hard to think that there is no light in the ship..

The flag is flapping or standing could it be because there is no gravity in the moon (?).

There are many conspiracy theories around and there are societies or cults that believes in those just do a google search and you will be overwhelmed.

As far as I am concerned moon landing was real. My grandfather used to relay the moon-landing story as it was being unfolded, everyday. I witnessed the landing through his eyes, there was no TV or electricity at that time in our village but my grandfather used to subscribe to newspapers. Someone had to go to town to collect the papers for him.

Here is the one among many I like from - http://www.comedyzine.com/conspire3.html

I think socks are a Government conspiracy. I mean think about it, you put 2 new socks in the washer, but only one comes out. I think the Government is stealing them and making millions. Also by taking the skin flakes off the socks they can recover DNA, our DNA. I'd like to call the shrinking of cotton to your attention. I think the Government is hiding new technology. They steal some of the cotton and sell it as new.

 
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Probably the moon in 1969 came to Earth as close as the Nevada desert??

 
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As far as I am concerned moon landing was real. My grandfather used to relay the moon-landing story as it was being unfolded, everyday. I witnessed the landing through his eyes, there was no TV or electricity at that time in our village but my grandfather used to subscribe to newspapers. Someone had to go to town to collect the papers for him.
<----SHIV
Your argument is based upon Sanjay and Dhritarastra theory.You witnessed the landing through his eyes.
Ok but why has been lunar exploration dumped in a last fime then.And they are still not ready to go back.What are the obstacles?
I really smell conspiracy behind moon landing.It was just a hoax to equate themselves with the Soviets in the space race.
 
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Hold on hold on!!!

Before we engage our brain to these conspiracy theories, let's engage our analytical mind.

First of all, this statement is entirely false:
"Thats right, MOON has no atmosphere, means NO air, means NO FRICTION."

Friction = u * N
Where u is the coefficient of friction (a unitless entity) and N=normal force pushing the two objects together. Taking air out of the equation doesn't do anything to the equation. So, friction exists in vaccum too, as long there are two surfaces that are not perfectly smooth.

Let's get back to the conspiracy theory, in next thread:
 
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The documentary you are talking about was aired in Fox, about 2 years ago. Few interesting points were made, like the absence of footsteps leading to or from the lunar ship. They said, in the bid to claim the space supremacy, US faked the landing.

Numerous articles have been "wasted" on this subject to erase these phony conspiracy theories, let's get it from the horse's mouth:
- http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

To sum it up, The flag wave might have been created by jerking the pole while attempting to erect it in the moon. Unlike earth, things don't tend to come to their stable form so easily back up there.

Dust don't tend to "stick" or stay to the ladder in moon as in earth. They follow a ballistic path, they keep on rolling into the space.

This is another site that presents the plausible scientific explanations:
- http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ConspiracyTheoryDidWeGototheMoon.htm

And another one:
- http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Hope that clears some unstable minds here in Sajha.
 
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First of all, this statement is entirely false:
"Thats right, MOON has no atmosphere, means NO air, means NO FRICTION."

Friction = u * N
Where u is the coefficient of friction (a unitless entity) and N=normal force pushing the two objects together. Taking air out of the equation doesn't do anything to the equation. So, friction exists in vaccum too, as long there are two surfaces that are not perfectly smooth.

DWI, khoi k ho tha chaina, im not a physics student. BUT when i finished watching the Conspiracy Theory on FOX yea, about 2 years ago, right after that, they justified all.
AND during that they mentioned NO FRICTION and because of friction, there is no drag, thus the flag will never stop flapping as it would not rub against anything, wehreas on in atmosphere, the flag will rub against air and slow down flapping and eventually hang! :P
 
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redstone,
Right u are. And holding your concept as the true one, what do you think would happen to the flag when they were erecting the pole in the moon? The flag would get part of the angular motion from the pole and tend to stretch as the force is distributed parallely to entire flag surface. The stretch would be similar to the waving of a flag under breezy condition. Once "jerked" the flag will continue to "blow" for a longer period than in earth atmosphere, hence it is possible that the flag appeared "blowing" even moments after it was erected.
And trust me, friction does exist there up in the moon surface. Only thing missing is earth atmosphere and high gravitational pull of the earth (u already know moon has lesser pull).
Do visit the link I have posted up there.
 


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