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Posted on 05-01-06 3:50 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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every now and then, we see posts on kurakani where a person talks about suicide/depression/drugs.

without exception, these threads become innundated by posters who treat this matter as a joke. take for example, thisthread. the originator of the thread might or might not have meant it as a joke. however, that is besides the point.

the point is that depression and suicidal thoughts are dangerous, and can happen to a lot of folk.

the reasons may be varied

one reason is drug-related. transition to a foreign culture accompanied by a lack of family support means that a lot of young people end up making some wrong choices. this leads to a cycle of mental torture where the negativity feeds on itself and may lead to suicidal tendencies

or perhaps there is a different reason. we all have our own demons.

very often, people in mental stress do not realize that there is a way out of the cycle, that there is indeed a light at the end of the tunnel.

a big factor is that they do not know where they can turn to for help to get them through this crisis. often, they feel lost, that the whole world is conspiring against them. they long for support and understanding, for someone who will listen to them.

sometimes, this cry for help manifests itself as a post on sajha. it is, after all, a network of nepali folk, and however tenuous a web it is, it is still a web. i know this because while i was going through a similar phase, i turned to sajha.

when this happens, we owe it to these people to refrain from cracking insensitive jokes.

i remember that there used to be a usergroup on sajha for depression related issues. i dont know what has become of it.

i was wondering if there are people out there who would sincerely like to help folk get through the awful agony that is depression and suicidal thoughts. i was proposing to set up a 'sanctuary' of folks who are supportive rather than disdainful.

if such a group ever materializes, it wouldnt be a counselling group be any stretch of the imagination. we wouldnt try to act dr. phil. i was imagining perhaps a group that, through personal testimony, attempt to provide others evidence that one can break out of the cycle, that a better life is possible. point folk towards services that could help them get through their person crisis. a group that would provide support and understanding.

god knows i could have used such support.

if any of you are interested in setting up such a group, please email me
i can be reached at ajaya.panday@gmail.com
 
Posted on 05-01-06 4:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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count me in..this s3it got me more depressed now
 
Posted on 05-01-06 9:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Le chef the nuit.

Thank you for getting this started. Excellent idea, and very important.

I'll absolutely help out to the full extent possible.

Arnico.
 
Posted on 05-01-06 9:36 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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le chef du nuit ,
Very thoughtful of you to have come up with this. Yes, we might not be experts but sometimes talking to someone does help ... let me know if I can be of any help in my part of the town.

R.
 
Posted on 05-01-06 1:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Absolutely agree with all of you.

In my own experience, the undergrad years in US and abroad are tortuous. While there is immense peer pressure to participate in all sorts of merrymaking adventures, the reality of financial constraint and lonliness can often haunt you to the extreme. Often times you are so helpless and you tend to think that YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE in such circumstances. While there are many who are only joking about the issue, it would be unwise to dismiss any of these cause murders/suicide/homicide all happen at a spur of a moment.

Yes ajaya, count me in. The simple one liner of assurance in a person's life can go a long way. :)
 
Posted on 05-01-06 1:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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if you depressed, go running. run and run and run.
that's what i do.
 
Posted on 05-01-06 1:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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One of the many things that you can do, bornfree! You can also go swimming, mountain climbing etc., which are all physical. The other thing is talk to somebody, get support around you. The other thing that you can do is take antidepressant (prozac, baby, yeah!).
 
Posted on 05-01-06 3:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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sometimes 'resoning' solves the solution, it did to me few days back.

Somehow I felt that I was gonna die that day. Then fearing the death, my body went pale, and pulse went 150 per min. seeing this, more fear grew. Then i seeked help from my friends, I wanted a reason why I wasnt dying. I could find no reason for about an hour. By one hour, I was unable to make even 5 steps. I was that weak. hehe.

Then I realized, if I was dying and I knew that I was dying, then all the others should also know before they die. If they know when they die, then they would tell this to their beloved that the death is around. why nobody told? you know why? coz nobody died by smoking घाँस। hahahaha.... why would i die then.. hehahahah a.. .that was scary... but funny.. hehe.

ok. My point is, there are a lot of people who are into depressions and/or frustrations that sometime somehow try to overcome your reasoning power. but, if you think properly, think in a proper directions, you will realize what was wrong with your understanding and why you should not be depressed so much. Of course, friends and network like Sajha can do a lot.
 
Posted on 05-02-06 3:47 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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an update
a few sajha members have expressed their interest in helping out in the creation of a support network
just wanted to encourage folk to voulenteer their services. right now we are trying to figure out what form this support network can take, and what it can do to help.
again, please contact me at ajaya.panday@gmail.com if you are interested in this project
thanks
 
Posted on 05-02-06 4:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ok came here to just say..to those who are tryn to do smthing to help others...well nice idea..and may things work out the way u all envisioned..i mean..ideas are easy to think of..but to implement?anyways good to see u all takn the initiative :oD...

and oh ..to those who kinda were dreamin i just came to say that!guess u didnt believe me eh?;oP hehe..ok i try not to be a wet blanket..which i know i am :oS..ke garney..just cant stop thinkin about u know some ppl misusing another persons effort and time etc and givin the person whos tryn to help nothn but frustrations and makin the person think twice about tryn to be of some help again :oS..aint it great that the world aint full of pessimistic ppl like me?hehe..so alls good ;o)..dun mind me pessimism hai :oD....i am who i am hoina?wat i will be time will tell..hopefully a bit more optimistic in the future?have hope ppl!:oD ..even for me?:oS ;oP hehe...

and yah..i better not make a 'majak' of the nice thots and effort of u thotful ppl here..by sayn i too am around to try and help..if anyone needs me help..i mean duh!..i be makin the person more frustrated i tell u!:o| ...by addin more pessimism to an already down person :oS..ke garney..teytikai hope pani dinu daar lagcha..bharai malai ni blame gardai bascha bhaneyra :oS..cos in the end..if one doesnt try to help himself/herself..can anyone help him/her?:oS...i mean of cos in the end..if one tries hard enuf..one shud be able to help to some extent hoina?:oD...(yeah im tryn to be positive here..its hard!:o| hehe..)so yah..kinda feels a bit weird to feel positive..but then again it feels good :oD..i guess the positivity of u ppl are kinda rubbn to me ;o)..be careful hai..dherai rub nagara..molest charge ma lakla ;oP hehe..i mean duh!dun worry i wont try to take advantage of a nice gesture here..but who knows?someone might?maybe that someone might be me?:oS..oops..negative thot ayo?:oS hehe..

*urges himself to think positive*

*salla!think positive!!deep breath!!positive!!positive!!!and no!!dun think about being HIV positive!:@...u dun get HIV by just touchn the person salla!dun start thinkin who u bummed into today!..on the bus..on the train!!:@* hehe

anyways yeah..hope everyone does learn to help themselves..:oD..cos if u start helpin urself..its kinda surprising how the world starts and seems to be able to help u hoina ;o)..and that leads u to be capable enuf to try and help another person?:oD...

la la to each their own..sacchi ho..if only it was easier than how it is.. to push oneself to do those things we know we need to do..to listen to those rational thots we do hear ..from our frens..family..even ourselves?..yet when we are in the gloomy dreaded mood(ironic aint it?tho it can b called dreaded..when we are in that mood..the last thing we wanna do is get away from that mood?or is it just me who doesnt wanna wanna think of nice nice thots?:oS hehe)..well..do we listen to rational thots/words?hehe..ironies!!WOOHOOOOOO :oD

la la..i better stop eh?;oP hehe..i can just feel the frustrations comin out of ppl..ppl who are still tryn to see if im startn to make sense at last..esp with the amount of words i type hehe..duh!;oP hehe..cheers for those ppl who still have hope for me :oD..(and oh if u dun have hope..no worries!duh!i prefer it that way?;oP hehe and plus..im glad at least ur sane ;o)..paagal ho bhaneyra malai chinta lageyko thio re :oS duh!was scared i might have kinda helped u become paagal ke :oS..ma ta goyo goyo..aru ta alik najahuus bhaneyko :oS..yeah right ;oP hehe..sounds like a lecture?hehe..duh!it wasnt :oS..ironies of life...all i wanna do is voice out me opinions..tho i dun know why i have such opinions..that i never will call 'mine' ever meself :oS..and yet i voice them?and sounds like lecture?:oS..i mean i do cherish it now..some dais who kinda told me then..to not to do those things they did..seemed like lecture then..but now ..thinkn of it..feels good to know they cared :oD..tho didnt really listen then?:oS..sacchi why must we more than not..try to learn from our own mistakes?why not from others?i mean duh!of cos there are tonnes of ppl who are a bit smarter and learns from others ..cheers that they exist :oD..im talkn a bit about meself ke ..wasnt that obvious?i mean aint it obvious until now?!!!hehe..sheeesh!doesnt me self centrerism show!u blindos!:@ ;oP hehe...anyways hopefully ..there aint much dumbos like me out there :oD..sacchi..i dunno smtimes if i ever do learn..or just like to repeat the things again and again...stubborness arghhhh!!!!someone is gonna get hurt real bad!:@..remember peter russell?hehe..think that was his name :oS..alik confused now hehe..dyam i love comedies!:oD hehe...ok ok enuf of me!and duh!who would have read until now!paagal ley ta type garcha!but it takes a more paagal to read wat a paagal has typed?wahahahah ;oP hehe...)

where was i?hehe..oh yah...born free mentioned..run!..to each their own i gues...wish i did still run away me stress like i used to back then...anyways hopefully everyone has found out their own way to destress themselves..and keep them a bit more sane :oD hehe..i think i found mine hehe...typing!!wahahahaahahaa..duh!;oP hehe..but yeah too much is never good?and oh hopefully it aint alcohol or drugs :oS..sex?as long as not too much?duh!ask a sex therapist!!why me!:@ ;oP..but yeah..too much is never good!!hoina?duh!;oP hehe...but the thin thread that separates too much..from enuf..urghh..good luck there :oD

la la enuf of bhak bhak..im surprised im typing here..i mean i guess now only do i realise i might have been quite stressed..more than i thot?hehe..cos duh!actions speaks?hehe..and yeah..tho this doesnt seem enuf..wanna carry on and on..:oS hehe..but for the sake of everyone here(told u..u all rubbed a bit onto me ..im carin a bit here?errr aint i carin?i mean i think i am!say i am!:@ ;oP hehe)...i better stop :oD...

and oh yah thanks to that someone whom i dunno...who gave me the recipe of lemon and honey with hot water..i think it might be helpin a bit..well i will really know when i stop typing hehe..but the potion is def tasty ;o) hehe...

good luck to everyone..esp those who tries to help others?;o) hehe...and yeah..hope u all manage to help urself..when u do need help ;o) hehe...

good day :oD..and dun mind me bhak bhakn :oS hehe..cos if u do..u better blame some of me frens..who urges me not to stop :oS..yeah there are some weirdos like them who exist :oS..cheers for me that they exist :oD hehe...cos i really had enuf of 'voicin' me opinions to frens and frustratin them!typin?thats diff!!!;o)...anyone paagal enuf to read all of such bhakwash..deserves to get headaches?:oS ;oP hehe..i mean duh!we have to live with the choices we make?:oS..dun blame me!:@ but yeah ..if im to be blamed..dun stop ;o) hehe..give it to me baby!;oP hehe..

urghh...this mood!i better stop!!!!!!:@ and i will stop!:@ for now ;oP hehe

good day :oD...and its nice to know there are ppl out tere who cares :oD...dun hide!!laaj mannu parna ;o) hehe..kinda already made me feel hope ;o) hehe..better go when im feeln positive!..urghh..cant stop thinkn about goin for a medical in the hospital :oS ;oP hehe...

*gone*
 
Posted on 05-02-06 8:17 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Count me in too. I am very much interested in psychology behind these blue feelings
 


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